- From: Patrick Stickler <patrick.stickler@nokia.com>
- Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:38:41 +0200
- To: mint@franklinmint.fm
- Cc: www-tag@w3.org
On Mar 19, 2005, at 21:33, ext Robert Sayre wrote: > > ... I've heard arguments against using a "MOVE" method on the grounds > that "Atom shouldn't need to extend HTTP". That's a reasonable > argument, but I found it strange to hear from people who were > advocating the use of extension headers. What leads to this definition > of "extend"? One very important distinction between extending HTTP by new methods vs. by new headers -- and one that is often overlooked or dismissed -- is how either approach provides robustness. The behavior of an HTTP server recieving a request using a method that it does not support is quite clear and unambiguous -- the request fails. However, for extension headers, included in a request using a standardized method (e.g. GET); if the server (or component handler) does not recognize and understand a given header, it can simply ignore it and proceed, and thus, the client may recieve a result which it presumes takes into account the specified header, but in fact does not. Thus, each and every solution must encorporate machinery to verify success or failure for each request -- something that should be provided by the underlying protocol, i.e. HTTP. With new methods, it does. From a systems engineering standpoint, excluding (or discriminating against) the use of new methods makes it harder to create robust web applications. Secondly, a frequent argument against new methods is concern for achieving broad support for new functionality. Well, that argument is just as valid for new headers. True, adding support for new headers is often easier than adding support for new methods, but from a free-market viewpoint, if the functionality provided by support for any particualar new methods is seen as providing sufficient benefit, then it all just comes down to the economics of supply and demand. If users demand that their web clients be able to interact with web servers using those new methods, then web server owners (and web server platform vendors) will respond proportionally to that demand. I.e. it is not a technical or architectural issue, but a social/market issue. Getting global buy-in and ubiquitous deployment of *any* new web technology is hard. But the lion's share of that challenge has nothing whatsoever to do with whether new methods vs. new headers are used. (and IMO *both* are needed and have their proper use and purpose) Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Stickler Senior Architect Forum Nokia Online Tampere, Finland patrick.stickler@nokia.com
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