- From: Rick Jelliffe <ricko@allette.com.au>
- Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:07:41 +1000
- To: Dare Obasanjo <dareo@microsoft.com>
- CC: www-tag@w3.org
Dare Obasanjo wrote: >Instead of just making a feature request can you describe a scenario which this which is currently hampered by the lack of this feature and how this feature solves the problem? Building versioning model based on URI structure seems fraught with complexity and brittleness to me. > > I am not proposing "building versioning model based on URI structure" but something less: that if namespace URIs are treated hierachically, that gives us another tool with which to address versioning issues. That namespace URIs have no standard relationships one to another at the moment potentially provides another way to slice the cake. At the moment, when you derive a new schema, you cannot really create a new namespace for the pragmatic reason that stylesheets and namespace-aware software breaks. Because of this namespaces are used for setting the fuzzy semantics or invariants: the vocabulary perhaps but not the dialect. This results in dumb software that constantly needs schema "hints" and other locations in order to work: namespace URIs, currently having only semantics as a string not as a hierarchical name, provide no help to user agents or other systems to know whether two namespaces are related. It is more robust for a processor to say "I don't have the information for this namespace available, but I do have information for a higher namespace, which I will fall back to", rather than "I will get information for this namespace, which may tell me to cascade to the information for another namespace". This is an issue that has bitten W3C working groups: for example, when an XSLT 1.1 (or 2.0!) or XML Schemas 1.1 comes out, or when a minor revision of some other vocabulary occurs, the WG cannot version-up the namespace even though the language has changed. A hierarchical namespace could be used to address that problem: the eXtensible Xerography working group puts out a spec with namespace http://www.w3.org/ns/xx and then want to put out an update including full internationalization, they can then then use the namespace http://www.w3.org/ns/xx/i18n with the intent that existing software that understands the old namespace will accept documents in the new namespace, unless unwanted elements occur (i.e. the software has been written to fail on unexpected elements: software obviously can be written to swallow or otherwise handle unexpected elements too.) Cheers Rick Jelliffe
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