- From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:25:38 -0600
- To: www-tag@w3.org
- Cc: "Ralph R. Swick" <swick@w3.org>, Eric Miller <em@w3.org>, Steven Pemberton <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>, Dave Beckett <dave.beckett@bristol.ac.uk>
Regarding... Action DC: Write up a crisp articulation of issue RDFINHTML-35. [DC says - don't expect results before May 2003 meeting] -- http://www.w3.org/2003/02/06-tag-summary.html#mixedNamespaceMeaning-13 As of 6Feb, I thought I could let the issue remain dormant for a while. But then we had a session on it in last week's Semantic Web Architecture meeting. So, aspiring to be a great designer*, I shall steal the following articulation of the issue, which I consider as crisp as is feasible: [[ Ever since RDF's inception, people have been wanting to embed it in their HTML documents. In fact, ever since HTML was invented, people have been wanting to embed some sort of metadata for extraction and processing by user agents and crawlers. So, theoretically, HTML and RDF is a match made in heaven [...]. However, after many raging discussions within the W3C's RDF Interest Group and elsewhere, there is still no one standard method for associating RDF with HTML. This is an important thing for the Semantic Web community to resolve: even the author has quite recently found himself wanting to associate RDF with HTML for certain applications, but has had to put-aside the application due to the lack of a standard approach. The original RDF FAQ contained a piece of advice telling people to simply embed the XML RDF into the XHTML (cf. Embed XML RDF Part I), but this was criticized since the approach means that the resultant XHTML/RDF soup does not validate. This issue has been noted by the RDF Core Working Group (as faq- html-compliance), and is currently "for discussion". My hope is that this document will be valuable input into the issue. ]] -- "RDF in HTML: Approaches", Sean Palmer, June 2002 http://www.w3.org/2003/03/06-xhtmlrdf All are invited to review the notes from last week's meeting. Note that this was something of an ad-hoc meeting, and the 'minutes' are just whatever anybody thought was worth putting in the IRC channel... I organized the logs and presentation materials just a bit... [[ 10:45 - 12:15 Second morning session RDF and HTML - Ralph Swick * log: 15:48:33 thru 17:06:44, thanks to Sandro Hawke * presentation materials: Embedding RDF [and other XML vocabularies] within an XHTML Document * a proposal which was dicsussed: Pemberton 13 Feb background reading: * hodder-01 from the RDF in HTML RDFCore last call issues list * RDFinXHTML-35: Syntax and semantics for embedding RDF in XHTML ]] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/meetings/tech-200303/#s-rdf-html It's possible that some of the proposals being thrown around for RDF in HTML might work as so-called 'namespace documents', re http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#namespaceDocument-8 So I figure I owe www-tag a heads up. So here you are. Please let's begin an orderly discussion of the issue. As issue owner, I eventually owe the TAG a proposal to close it (though if one of the other TAG members beats me to it, I won't be disappointed ;-). I'm not holding my breath, but I sorta expect that in the next few weeks to months, something will come of the momentum built at last week's meeting; I'm sorta hoping to see something from Pemberton, Miller, Beckett, et. al. If a blizzard of half-baked email breaks out here in www-tag, I will most likely not read much of it, so please, please, spend at least an hour or so reading over the above materials before you post. Always keep in mind Tips for getting the TAG's attention http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/#tag-attn and note the recent supplement from the chair... Traffic volume on www-tag http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0196.html * Good designers borrow; great designers steal. http://edanet.com/messaging/anyboard1/posts/34.html evidently a play on... "Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal..." - van gogh -- Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
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