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[Agenda] 7 Jul 2003 TAG teleconf (contentTypeOverride-24, Findings, errorHandling-20, RDFinXHTML-35, mixedUIXMLNamespace-33)

From: Ian B. Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: 03 Jul 2003 16:38:48 -0400
To: www-tag@w3.org
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The agenda of the 7 July 2003 TAG teleconference
is available as HTML and as text below.

TAG participants, please note the homework

 _ Ian

[1] http://www.w3.org/2003/07/07-tag.html

                   Agenda for 7 July 2003 TAG teleconference

   Note: The Chair does not expect the agenda to change after close of
   business (Boston time) Thursday of this week.


     * All: [7]Text sent by David Orchard about extensibility.
     * At least CL, NW: [8]Client handling of MIME headers
     * All: Second comment from Noah in [9]summary of comments about
       [10]URIs, Addressability, and the use of HTTP GET and POST
     * All: [11]Notes from Chris Lilley on error handling

      [7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jun/0086.html
      [8] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/mime-respect.html
      [9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003May/0099.html
     [10] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/whenToUseGet-20030509.html
     [11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jun/0099.html

1. Administrative (10min)

    1. Roll call. No regrets sent.
    2. Accept minutes of [12]30 Jun teleconference?
    3. Accept this [13]agenda?
    4. Next meeting: 14 July?
    5. Face-to-face meeting agenda?

     [12] http://www.w3.org/2003/06/30-tag-summary.html
     [13] http://www.w3.org/2003/07/07-tag.html

2. Technical (80 mins)

  2.1 Review of text from Voice Browser Working Group (20 mins)

     * [14]contentTypeOverride-24
          + [15]Speech Recognition Grammar Specification Version 1.0,
            section [16]2.2.2 External Reference by URI

     [14] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentTypeOverride-24
     [15] http://www.w3.org/TR/speech-grammar/
     [16] http://www.w3.org/TR/speech-grammar/#S2.2.2

   @@Awaiting text@@

  2.2 Findings (20 mins)

   See also: [17]findings.

     [17] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/findings

   Next steps on these findings:
     * [18]contentTypeOverride-24: [19]Client handling of MIME headers;
       see [20]summary of comments.
         1. Action SW 2003/06/23: Talk to Voice Browser WG about proposed
            text, then bring back to TAG.
         2. Action CL, NW 2003/06/30: Read the draft finding by 7 July.
         3. Completed action IJ 2003/06/30: Announce on www-tag that we
            expect to approve this finding in a week or so. Last chance
            for comments ([21]Done)
         4. Completed action IJ 2003/06/30: Ping SMIL IG about this
            finding, which refers to architectural error in SMIL 2.0
         5. See [23]comments from Philipp Hoschka
     * [24]xmlIDSemantics-32:
         1. [25]Chris Lilley draft finding.
         2. Action CL 2003/06/30: Revise this draft finding with new
            input from reviewers. 7 July Deadline.
     * [26]URIs, Addressability, and the use of HTTP GET and POST; see
       [27]summary of comments. See also [28]comments from Larry
          + [29]whenToUseGet-7
               o Next step for [30]revised draft finding?
               o Action IJ 2003/06/23: Incorporate a sentence about scope
                 based on LM comments.
     * [31]contentPresentation-26: Action CL 2003/06/02: Make available a
       draft finding on content/presentation.
     * [32]metadataInURI-31
          + Action SW 2003/06/02: Draft finding for this one. See [33]SW
          + See also [34]TB email on Apple Music Store and use of URI
            schemes instead of headers
     * Action IJ 2003/06/09: Turn [35]TB apple story into a finding.

     [18] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentTypeOverride-24
     [19] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/mime-respect.html
     [20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003May/0099.html
     [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0002.html
     [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/symm/2003Jul/0004.html
     [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0005.html
     [24] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#xmlIDSemantics-32
     [25] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/xmlIDSemantics-32.html
     [26] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/whenToUseGet-20030509.html
     [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003May/0099.html
     [28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003May/0104.html
     [29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#whenToUseGet-7
     [30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/get7-20020610.html
     [31] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#contentPresentation-26
     [32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#metadataInURI-31
     [33] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003May/0050.html
     [34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0151.html
     [35] http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/04/30/AppleWA

  2.3 Architecture document (15 minutes)

   [36]27 June 2003 Working Draft of Arch Doc published.
    1. Discussion of [37]text sent by David Orchard about extensibility.
    2. Action PC 2003/06/16: Send second draft of AC announcement
       regarding TAG's last call expectations/thoughts and relation to AC
       meeting feedback.
    3. Action RF 2003/06/02: Rewrite section 5. Section 5 is expected to
       be short.
    4. Action IJ 2003/06/16: Attempt to incorporate relevant bits of
       "[38]Conversations and State" into section to be produced by RF.

     [36] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-webarch-20030627/
     [37] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jun/0086.html
     [38] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Conversations

  2.4 Issues the TAG intends to discuss (25 mins)

     * [39]errorHandling-20
          + Action CL 2003/02/06: Write a draft finding on the topic of
            (1) early/late detection of errors (2) late/early binding (3)
            robustness (4) definition of errors (5) recovery once error
            has been signaled. Due first week of March.
     * [40]RDFinXHTML-35
     * [41]mixedUIXMLNamespace-33

     [39] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#errorHandling-20
     [40] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#RDFinXHTML-35
     [41] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#mixedUIXMLNamespace-33

  2.5 Issues with action items

     * [42]uriMediaType-9
          + IANA appears to have responded to the spirit of this draft
            (see [43]email from Chris Lilley).What's required to close
            this issue?
          + Action CL 2003/05/05: Propose CL's three changes to
            registration process to Ned Freed. [What forum?]
     * [44]HTTPSubstrate-16
          + Action RF 2003/02/06: Write a response to IESG asking whether
            the Web services example in the SOAP 1.2 primer is intended
            to be excluded from RFC 3205
          + See [45]message from Larry Masinter w.r.t. Web services.
     * [46]xlinkScope-23
          + See [47]draft, and [48]SW message to CG chairs.
          + Action CL 2003/06/30: Ping the chairs of those groups asking
            for an update on xlinkScope-23.
     * [49]binaryXML-30
          + Action TB 2003/02/17: Write to www-tag with his thoughts on
            adding to survey.
          + Next steps to finding? See [50]summary from Chris.
     * [51]xmlFunctions-34
          + Action TBL 2003/02/06: State the issue with a reference to
            XML Core work. See [52]email from TimBL capturing some of the
     * [53]siteData-36
          + Action TBL 2003/02/24 : Summarize siteData-36

     [42] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#uriMediaType-9
     [43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0302.html
     [44] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#HTTPSubstrate-16
     [45] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0208.html
     [46] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#xlinkScope-23
     [47] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Mar/0094.html
     [48] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Mar/0104
     [49] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#binaryXML-30
     [50] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0224.html
     [51] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#xmlFunctions-34
     [52] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Feb/0309.html
     [53] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist.html#siteData-36

  2.6 Issues the TAG intends to discuss at face-to-face meeting


     * [54]URIEquivalence-15
          + SW proposal: Track RFC2396bis where [55]Tim Bray text has
            been integrated. Comment within the IETF process. Move this
            issue to pending state.
     * [56]IRIEverywhere-27
          + Action CL 2003/04/07: Revised position statement on use of
            IRIs. CL says to expect this by 21 April.
          + Action TBL 2003/04/28: Explain how existing specifications
            that handle IRIs are inconsistent. [57]TBL draft not yet
            available on www-tag.
          + See TB's[58]proposed step forward on IRI 27.

     [54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#URIEquivalence-15
     [55] http://www.textuality.com/tag/uri-comp-4
     [56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#IRIEverywhere-27
     [57] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Apr/0074.html
     [58] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0090.html

    Qnames, fragments, and media types

     * [59]rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6
          + Action DC 2003/02/06: Propose TAG response to XML Schema
            desideratum ([60]RQ-23).
     * [61]fragmentInXML-28 : Use of fragment identifiers in XML.
         1. Connection to content negotiation?
         2. Connection to opacity of URIs?
         3. No actions associated / no owner.
     * [62]abstractComponentRefs-37
          + See [63]issue description from David Orchard. Next steps?
          + Action DO 2003/06/23: Point Jonathan Marsh at options. Ask
            them for their analysis.
     * [64]putMediaType-38

     [59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#rdfmsQnameUriMapping-6
     [60] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-xmlschema-11-req-20030121/#N400183
     [61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#fragmentInXML-28
     [62] http://www.w3.org/2003/07/24-tag-summary.html#abstractComponentRefs-37
     [63] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Apr/0089.html
     [64] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#putMediaType-38

    RDDL, namespace documents

     * [65]namespaceDocument-8
          + Action TB 2003/04/07: Prepare RDDL Note. Include in status
            section that there is TAG consensus that RDDL is a suitable
            format for representations of an XML namespace. Clean up
            messy section 4 of RDDL draft and investigate and publish a
            canonical mapping to RDF. See TB's [66]1 June version.
          + Action PC 2003/04/07: Prepare finding to answer this issue,
            pointing to the RDDL Note. See [67]comments from Paul
            regarding TB theses.
          + Refer to draft TAG [68]opinion from Tim Brayon the use of
            URNs for namespace names.
               o RF: Folks assume that because the specs say so, URNs
                 will be persisitent. But persistence is a function of
                 institutional commitment and frequency of use.

     [65] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/open-summary.html#namespaceDocument-8
     [66] http://www.tbray.org/tag/rddl/rddl3.html
     [67] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Apr/0046.html
     [68] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jun/0003.html

  2.7 New issues?

   The TAG expects to discuss these on 14 July.
    1. [69]Visibility of Web Services, raised by Mark Baker
    2. [70]Character model conformance, raised by TBL
    3. [71]Meaning of URIs in RDF documents, raised by TBL

     [69] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003May/0069.html
     [70] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jun/0009.html
     [71] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jul/0022.html

3. Other actions

     * Action IJ 2003/02/06: Modify issues list to show that
       actions/pending are orthogonal to decisions. IJ and PLH making
       substantial progress on this; hope to have something to show in


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