- From: Lloyd Rutledge <Lloyd.Rutledge@cwi.nl>
- Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:45:38 +0100
- To: www-tag@w3.org
After mulling over last week's XLink telephone converence [1], I've made a summary of issues from the perspective of supporting the option of remapping link semantics on multiple attributes. Here it is: The most important misconception may be that XLink discussion is between "elementists" and "attributists". Perhaps the groups are better described as "elementists" and "choicists", or better: "element-alwaysists" and "remapping-if-and-when-best-ists". I sense that the key division is in whether or not the XLink elements can be hidden from authors through a simplifying remapping while providing browsers and bots with the required access to the XLink-defining element structure. I am convinced, as are others, that a remapping meeting these requirements can be created and should be pursued. Before discussing author-based motivations for remapping, here's a more direct motivation: legacy. All of the HTML, SMIL, etc. documents currently on the Web, and in any event most of those coming up in the next year to two, have no XLink elements in them. An element-only XLink will keep the links in these documents hidden. A remapped XLink will make these legacy links First Class XLinks along with all links made during the upcoming XLink era. Any approach that does not include legacy links would have to argue what advantages obtained outweigh this disadvantage. However, remapping is desired by authors of upcoming documents as well as processors of legacy documents. Authors within a document class will prefer to author their documents as they see it in the most efficient way possible. They will often want to just type href= and longdesc= and trust that they will always mean what they are meant to mean. They will often not want to type two or three levels deep of element nesting describing the same link meaning every time the make the same type of link. When argued in the telco that requiring XLink elements in author-level instances will make the structure too complex, a counter-argument was that the authors are smart enough to handle it. However, authors' intelligence also enables them to choose alternatives that better suit their needs. Just because they are smart enough to handle complex element structure doesn't mean they'll want to -- they are smart enough to make their job as simple and efficient as it can be so they can do more. There are already alternatives available for applying link semantics to author-simplified instances, as discussed in the telco. If W3C does not provide an XLink remapping, then authors will have plenty of others to choose from. The Web will have XLink remapping -- this is not up to us to decide. We can, however, decide *how* XLink can be remapped -- but, of course, the first step is committing to doing so and getting a group started before other solutions start to dominate. Those opposed to remapping as "yet another language" should take note that several competing alternatives of this "yet another language" are already emerging. The best we can do is make it only one "yet another language". Of course, there are requirements to be met in making such a remapping. The concerns mentioned in the telco should be among these requirements. I believe all the requirements can be met The basis of any remapping architecture is that you have format designers who set up the XLink specification of the linking semantics in their XML formats, and then you have authors who write documents in these formats. First of all, let's make it clear that no one wants to prohibit authors from putting XLink elements directly in their instances. Language designers may be able to prohibit this in given languages, but we could encourage them not not and inform them of the benefits of allowing authors, should they want to, to indulge themselves in the full glory of XLink elements. I see no reason, for example, to have XLink elements in HTML that authors can choose to use, as long as they can alternatively choose to use remapped attributes instead (and have more than one such remapped attribute per element). Another concern was about the availability of the XLink structure, and the certainty and efficiency of this availability. CSS is a useful analogy, though it is not the "style" aspect but the "sheet" aspect that applies. XSLT may be a better analogy, since structural remapping is necessary as well as property/attribute. (XSLT has been proposed as a solution as well.) We discussed how the various levels of remapping that CSS provides also applies to XLink remapping. These are - PER LINK (ELEMENT) INSTANCE CSS gives a style= attribute. By analogy, direct XLink element structure should be allowed instead of attribute shortcuts in the document instance. I think everyone is already in agreement that at least this should exist (since XLink defines at least this as is). - FOR A WHOLE DOCUMENT CSS code for a whole document can appear in one place within its <head>. By analogy, a document-wide XLink remapping should also be allowed in one place directly in the document instance code. This still give the author shortcuts, but keeps the XLink remapping code in the document itself. - FOR MULTIPLE DOCUMENT INSTANCES A CSS file can be referenced by a <link> element from the <head> of one or more document instance files. By analogy, one XLink remapping URI could be in multiple document instance files, giving the same shortcut constructs in these files the same XLink semantics. I understood that some objected to the uncertainty of this-- that they wanted more of a guarantee that the XLink information was accessible with the document. But doesn't the same argument apply to CSS? Some may argue that style is less important than linking, but stylists would still want the same guarantee. Such file referencing, be it for CSS or XSLT or XLink remapping, should be dependable. It is the obligation of those providing the shared resources to keep them universally accessible. Another argument against file referencing is that is slows processing down. Authors who want additional certainty of information availability or speed can opt to include the (CSS, XSLT, XLink) remapping code directly in the document. I think people should be able to choose either way. - FOR A WHOLE DOCUMENT CLASS CSS, of course, does not provide this. However, XLink would need such a remapping for HTML and other formats. A better analogy here is the namespace and DTD URI references for document instances. Here, as with file referencing above, people argue that it makes availability of link information uncertain and slow. One counter is, again, authors can choose to include the file at the resource directly. But the more likely solution is that the XLink semantics, as with HTML DTD and namespace information, would be hard-baked into the application processing the instance. The URIs would never be downloaded -- it's only important that application developers know where they are so they can use them as specifications to make sure they are getting the hard-baking right. Actually, such hard-baking should make the XLink processing *faster*, since an XML parse would not be necessary. Furthermore, the certainty of the XLink information would be the same for all distributions of a given program, so it could be given one robust test to determine the level of this certainty (and speed, for that matter). In summary, I think we can and should develop remapping that meets these requirements. Doing so will give format crafters a strong element-based approach for defining XLink semantics while giving authors a choice to either also follow an element-based approach or to use remappings provided by format crafters or other link-ologists. People can choose not only whether or not to use remapping, but also at what point in the file processing to do so. I hope this posting at least clarifies where some of the issues in applying XLink to HTML lie. -Lloyd [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Jan/0263.html -- Lloyd Rutledge vox: +31 20 592 40 93 fax: +31 20 592 43 12 CWI net: Lloyd.Rutledge@cwi.nl Web: http://www.cwi.nl/~lloyd Post: PO Box 94079 | NL-1090 GB Amsterdam | The Netherlands Street: Kruislaan 413/C | NL-1098 SJ Amsterdam | The Netherlands
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