- From: Williams, Stuart <skw@hp.com>
- Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:20:40 -0000
- To: "'Ian B. Jacobs'" <ij@w3.org>
- Cc: www-tag@w3.org
Ian, [This is interim and I hope to complete my review ahead of the meeting - I'm currently in section 3] Checkpoints for the meeting: - abstract - status section - 1.1.3 Principles... and REST - 1.2.1 Orthogonal Spec. - diagram - 2.3 URI Ambiguity ... - 4.5.5 Qnames in XML [I'm happy with this except for the comment below on the 1st GPN] Stuart -- Diagram: ------- Personally like the colouring and the drop shadow. Don't like the ugly arrows... prefer more stick like lines like the previous diagram. I would also ask for the shape convention (or something like it) that I used identifiers (round-cornered boxes), resources (elipses - ie as is) and represenations (rectangles - ie. as is) - which will maintain a visual difference even in black and white. Typos ----- 1 Intro: list after story, item 2: Interaction "...about Web resources". Suggest deletion. The subject of the "about" is not at all clear and it makes sense without the "...about...". Next sentence "...about the state of a resource through representations." suggest "...about the state of a resource through the exchange of representations." item 3: asserts representation is in xhtml... however this is not apparent in the diagram. Next para... strike "simplest" superfluous. 1.1 About this document 1st para: "This document attempts to describe..." very british :-) I'd be bolder (unusual for me!) "This document describes..." 1.1.2 2nd para: "This document strives..." at least for me, strive has a connotation of failed bold attempt (may be cultural) suggest "This document strikes a balance between brevity and precision..." or simply delete the sentence. Next sentence: "TAG findings..." just a two more words instead of the commas would make it much more readable. "TAG findings are informational documents... [which|that] complement..." +2 sentences: delete "are expected to"... they just do evolve independently. 1.2.2 Extensibility: 3rd bullet "...open set of XML namespaces of element..." -> "...open set of XML namespaces for element..." Para beginning "*Language Extension: ... the handling by implementations...". The handling of what by implementations? 2. Identification: 4th para: "Resources exist..." s/by zero URI/zero or more URI/ 2.1 URI Comparison: para beginning "Applications may..." shift parenthetical comment to end of sentence and/or promote to being a sentence in its own right. 2.2 URI Ownership: last para: 2nd sentence s/, as expressed through protocol messages// I have no idea what that adds to the preceding part of the sentence. 2.3 URI Ambiguity: last para: reword as "...because one could understand the [identifier|phrase] 'Moby Dick' to refer to..." 2.4.1 URI Scheme Registration: Strikes me that there is a GPN missing encouraging the registration of URI schemes. 2.5 URI Opacity: last para 1st sentence: Its not some much that specs specifically license people deploying resources to disclose their assignment algorithm (or schema at the risk of overloading the term). More that nothing in general prevents folks volunteering the information and voluntarily making a commitment to some stability of policy. 3. Interaction: 1st sentence: delete 'about resources'. ie. "Communication between agents over a network involves URI, messages and data." Could also lose "over a network". Questions?/Errors ----------------- 2.4 URI Schemes: with https: what is the basis for stating "Generic URI equivalence testing no longer works."? 2.6 Fragment Identifiers: 3rd bullet is *very* wrong. The data format specification details fragId semantics for references *to* instances of 'F' *not* *from* instances of 'F'. I think you could delete the 3rd bullet without harm. 4.5.5 Qnames in XML: 1st GPN s/indistinguishable./indistinguishable from URIs./ Themes ------ * Authority/Ownership 2.2 URI Ownership: First sentence needs some care. By a strict reading it allows one (or 3+) agent to assign the same URI to two different resources (but not two). I think that the crux of the matter is that the assignment (in the sense of establish a piece of the URI->resource mapping) is by some administrative/social/technical process delegated to a single agent - [not actually sure we can say that - how does one determine the singularity of an agent]. Checksums are only appropriate if representations are immutable over all future time - unless the checksum is not maintained beyond initial assignment... then it is just a way to generate a suitable random number. There has been some rejection of the notion of authority and ownership, most notably from Larry Massinter which we do not address in this draft - expect perhaps by persisting with the notions. * RFC2119 Terms: I still feel that we are mis-using them. * REST 1.1.3 Last para: I would like Roy to concur that the preceding list is indeed dervived from and consistent with his dissertation (if we are going to claim that it is). I also think we discussed in Japan that REST has wider applicability than protocol designer and that its appeal should not be so narrowly focussed. * Orthogonality 1.2.1 3rd para... what I think this is really trying to address is 'reaching' around the recognised interfaces that a given spec/technology provides. I'm not sure that picking on header/body separation quite makes the point. Bulleted list, 2nd item: I don't think that the use of META elements in HTML and the propagation of such information to lower levels in the stack "Is a clear abstraction violation". The use of META makes the HTML content more self describing. It is a clear point of coupling between HTML and whatever is carrying it (which could be SMTP). It is part of the abstraction of that interface boundary... but I don't see it as an abstraction violation. 3rd item: Implementation failure is not necessarily indicative of "abstraction violation" at an architectural level. It may be indicative of a failure to communicate clearly. *If* the META information and the Content-Type information (if present) are inconsistent then this is indicative of an error that should not be silently ignored. * Context free unique denotation: 2. Identification: "The scope of a URI is global: the resource identified by a URI does not depend on the context in which the URI appears." I'm ok with this, provided that we explain that that resource may be the basis of an indirect identification where the referent of a sentence in which as URI occurs may not be the resource in question, but something related to it - in some way that depends on context.
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