- From: Håkon Wium Lie <howcome@opera.com>
- Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 08:11:06 +0200
- To: "Roy T. Fielding" <fielding@apache.org>
- Cc: www-tag@w3.org
Also sprach Roy T. Fielding:
> > The recent TAG finding which suggests that XSL FOs is just another XML
> > vocabulary which can/should be stored/transferred on the web breaks
> > with this principle since FOs don't separate content from presentation
> > -- it's all mixed up and one can barely extract the text in
> > machine-readable form.
>
> Just because it is a good principle to separate content from presentation
> doesn't mean the Web should consist only of separated content. PDF is
> just as applicable for this case, and more frequent in practice, than
> XSL FO's. There exist legitimate reasons, mainly legal in nature, for
> why some content is inseparable from its presentation.
I agree about the need for a visual format. PDF is reasonsbly hard to
fiddle with and preserves line breaks. It therefore works quite well
for legal documents.
XSL-FO, however, does not have these charateristics. It's trivial to
change text in an XSL-FO "document" and line breaks are not preserved.
The only guarantee XSL-FO gives you is that the semantics is removed.
> The TAG finding is not even remotely about transferring representations
> in one format or another. What it is about is protocol design and the
> difficulty of deploying alternative mechanisms for separating presentation
> from content when each new group responsible for defining those mechanisms
> is allowed to choose arbitrary names for the same concepts.
Agreed. With its current wording, however, it encourages the use of
XSL-FO on the web. I don't think this was the intent of the TAG, and I
therefore propose you revise the document.
-h&kon
Håkon Wium Lie cto °þe®ª
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