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Re: Is SVG 2 still under development?

From: Ulrich-Matthias Schäfer <ulima.ums@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 08:15:02 +1000
Message-ID: <CAKKaHAsCv+ikPKBichxs7sinyZjnqNR7-jWXjU1ORzyiWbQVKQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: David Dailey <ddailey@zoominternet.net>
Cc: Bryan Dunphy <b.dunphy.342@icloud.com>, www-svg <www-svg@w3.org>
Hey Bryan,
I just read an interesting article around this topic that painted a more
darker picture of the svg development.
The main point was basically: Everyone waits for everyone else to implement
features of SVG2 before they will do it. A view useful features were
already adopted by the vendors even though the spec is not stable yet.
However, more and more features get dropped from the specs in order to
finally finalize it (pun intended).
Link to the article: https://css-tricks.com/svg-2-conundrum/

For me as the maintainer of svg.js and svgdom this is rather sad news
because I hoped for cool new features to come but I came to the conclusion
that nobody will sprint ahead unless you go and do it yourself. I hope I
will be able to contribute to chrome and firefox atleast in the near future.

Ulrich-Matthias Schäfer

svg.js: https://github.com/svgdotjs/svg.js
svgdom: https://github.com/svgdotjs/svgdom

Am Sa., 9. Mai 2020 um 07:00 Uhr schrieb David Dailey <

> Hi, I'm really not the right person to answer, being nowadays, just a
> lurker here, but if I mis-speak, others are sure to holler.
> I think the answer is yes the SVG spec is still under development, and
> just a few days ago, I saw activity here from some of those known to be
> closely involved in the development.
> A few years ago they decided to move most of the development activity, and
> perhaps even discussion to a place harder for old people like me to find
> -- like a blog or a wiki or a thermocouple -- who knows all the modern
> terminology these youngsters have (I'm just teasing, btw, but I really do
> forget the name of the thingy where the stuff lives now).
> But more importantly, for your needs, SVG is now baked into all major
> browsers (including most minor ones), and that includes support for "static
> SVG" as well as scripted stuff, and in *most* cases, support for
> non-scripted animation (of the sort, previously known as SMIL). It also has
> baked-in support from  many applications (like Illustrator and Inkscape)
> and it's not going away there. Also, it's a standard for vector graphics as
> used by Wikipedia (and in many cases, the SVG graphic is considered
> preferable by them to bitmaps, for obvious reasons). As someone who used to
> be deeply involved in SVG, I see no reason at all to suspect support for it
> will disappear from anywhere!
> The folks actually building it are relatively few in number, which I think
> explains the reason you didn't get a reply to your previous question. And
> they tend to be quite busy.
> The W3C has this to say:
> ----
> The mission of the Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) Working Group is to
> develop and maintain SVG.
> Chair: Dirk Schulze
> W3C Staff Contact: Chris Lilley
> Scheduled to end: 2021-03-31
> ------
> And according to their web page, the W3C is hiring, so I don't think
> they're going away.
> Cheers
> David Dailey
> Retired (http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Dunphy [mailto:b.dunphy.342@icloud.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 11:15 AM
> To: www-svg@w3.org
> Subject: Is SVG 2 still under development?
> I’m developing a (probably static - no scripting support available) SVG
> plugin for my primary multi-device, cross-platform development environment
> and need to know if I should be concerned with it as far as future support
> is concerned.
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