Re: Removing xml namespace prefix

What about xml:id?

Out of curiosity, what is the story with xml:id?  It was preferred over
plain id in the 1.2T spec, but is almost completely missing from SVG2.

Paul



On 12 July 2013 02:58, Cyril Concolato <cyril.concolato@telecom-paristech.fr
> wrote:

> Dear WG,
>
> I'm working on ACTION-3412: "Fix spec to remove need for xml namespace
> prefix" (http://www.w3.org/Graphics/**SVG/WG/track/actions/3412<http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/3412>
> ).
> IIRC, the idea behind this action was to simplify the authoring of content
> for SVG beginners, removing the need for prefixes (xlink:, xml: ...).
>
> There are currently 3 attributes that use the xml namespace prefix:
> - xml:base
> - xml:lang
> - xml:space
>
> For the xml:base attribute, we have recorded Issue 62 in the current
> draft, which says:
> "Are we happy to keep promoting the use of ‘xml:base’? Is it a use case
> worth trying to include a more HTML-like syntax for – the ‘base’ element?
> We anyway need to define somewhere what effect the HTML ‘base’ element has
> on any SVG document fragments."
> So what should I do here?
> a) keep the attribute but place it in the no namespace
> b) keep the attribute in the xml namespace and add one in the no namespace
> with the same reference to XML base, clarifying potential conflicts
> c) deprecate the attribute and introduce the base the element as in the
> HTML spec [3].
> d) keep the attribute for XML elements and introduce the base the element
> as in the HTML spec. This is what is done in the HTML 5 spec, it has the
> <base> element and the xml:base attribute is also allowed, but only on XML
> elements [2].
>
> I think option d) would be preferable for consistency with HTML.
>
> For the xml:lang attribute, the definition currently references XML 1.0.
> Should I remove the need for the namespace prefix but keep the reference to
> the XML specification. Or should we introduce the lang attribute in no
> namespace as in the HTML 5 spec [1] and keep both?
>
> For the xml:space attribute, it has already been deprecated in the SVG
> spec, to be replaced by the white-space property. I don't think it's
> necessary to remove the xml namespace for this one.
>
> Cyril
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/**drafts/html/master/dom.html#**
> the-lang-and-xml:lang-**attributes<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/dom.html#the-lang-and-xml:lang-attributes>
> [2] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/**drafts/html/master/dom.html#**
> the-xml:base-attribute-(xml-**only)<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/dom.html#the-xml:base-attribute-(xml-only)><
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/**drafts/html/master/dom.html#**
> the-xml:base-attribute-%28xml-**only%29<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/dom.html#the-xml:base-attribute-%28xml-only%29>
> >
> [3] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/**drafts/html/master/document-**
> metadata.html#the-base-element<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/document-metadata.html#the-base-element>
>
> --
> Cyril Concolato
> Maître de Conférences/Associate Professor
> Groupe Multimedia/Multimedia Group
> Telecom ParisTech
> 46 rue Barrault
> 75 013 Paris, France
> http://concolato.wp.mines-**telecom.fr/<http://concolato.wp.mines-telecom.fr/>
>
>
>


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