- From: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:30:13 +0200
- To: www-svg@w3.org
Hello www-svg, Minutes of todays call http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html and below as text SVG Working Group Teleconference 14 Sep 2010 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010JulSep/0122.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-irc Attendees Present Shepazu, ed, +39.537.7.aaaa, tbah, ChrisL, anthony_wrk Regrets Chair SV_MEETING_CHAIR Scribe chris Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]Last Call Comments 2. [6]Test suite overview 3. [7]SVG Integration * [8]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ <trackbot> Date: 14 September 2010 <scribe> scribe: chris <scribe> scribenick: chrisl Last Call Comments ISSUE-2340? <trackbot> ISSUE-2340 -- Last Call Comment: view and animation values lists - where can I find the promised note? -- open <trackbot> [9]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2340 [9] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2340 ACTION-2817 ACTION-2817? <trackbot> ACTION-2817 -- Chris Lilley to add the promised note relating to ISSUE-2340 -- due 2010-07-13 -- OPEN <trackbot> [10]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2817 [10] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2817 test at [11]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/linking-frag-01-f. svg [11] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/linking-frag-01-f.svg (chrisl corrects a typo in the test, recommits) The test checks that an escaped semicolon works the same as an unescaped one ED: need to debug, think we should pass this. Several values accepted CL: Transform should show a quarter circle my email [12]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Sep/0086.html [12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Sep/0086.html ED (checks in debugger) DS; What about wrapping in quotes? CL: List is split by semicolons first. Not clear quotes are allowed anyway ED: Looked at issue-2335, bias issue-2335? <trackbot> ISSUE-2335 -- Last Call Comment: Clarify feConvolveMatrix bias property -- raised <trackbot> [13]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2335 [13] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2335 ED: Feedback from Vincent and jasper, agreement on proposed option number 2 ... just need to test this and come up with wording ... does change how the spec defines it, and currently Opera, Firefox and ASV agree on bias. But its unused and not useful at present. <scribe> ... new wording is better UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: maybe get Inkscape and Opera to pass on the new wording ... checked in tests that Jasper made, colours are different CL: Inkscape is not using linearRGB ED: Jasper made tests with sRGB as well AG: Is option 1 what ASV does? CL: Yes <ed> [14]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2368 [14] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2368 ED: Cyril raised an issue on number parsing ACTION-2843? <trackbot> ACTION-2843 -- Cyril Concolato to propose new wording for the spec for ISSUE-2368 -- due 2010-09-13 -- OPEN <trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2843 [15] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2843 (wre link the action to the issue) ED: Will try to close as many as I can. Others sjould get on and do theirs Test suite overview <ed> [16]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/status/test_suite_stat us.html [16] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/status/test_suite_status.html ED: Updated the status generator tbah: what is 'uses red'? ChrisL: some can't be changed, like the ones on color syntax DS: Prefer to avoid red in passing tests where possible ED: Can toggle off the accepted ones so only the ones that need work are seen ... move ones as imageOwner and Reviewed to accepted ... only 14 tests <ed> [17]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/animate-elem-85-t. svg [17] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/animate-elem-85-t.svg description is not done yet ED: text in operator script could be moved around easily <ed> Run the test. No interaction required. <ed> [18]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/animate-elem-90-b. svg [18] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/animate-elem-90-b.svg also acceptged <ed> [19]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/filters-displace-0 2-f.svg [19] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/filters-displace-02-f.svg <ed> [20]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/painting-control-0 5-f.svg [20] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/painting-control-05-f.svg AG: Opera and Chrome both fail some subtests on that one also shapes-01-f.svg ED: Might require an erratum for 1.2T ... and update to 1.2T test suite as well AG: Does 1.1 say what to do with broken pont lists? ED: Was clear, then changed in 1.2T not sure why AG: How different is it? ... Will raise the issue now ED: and need to fix the 1.2T tests struct-use-10-f.svg ED: test description lissing, will shunt it around AG: shapes-01-f.svg is missing the subsection name ED: Yes but applies to two subsections CL: Just link it to the two sections ... or rename to one and say in the dezxcription it tests both sections struct-use-12-f.svg spelled 'reviewed' incorrectly :) ED: Script checks for fully red in the reference image text-align-07-t.svg CL: Should be an issue because of dominant baseline ... I propose that very old tests which have been out for years, a decade even, be marked with SVGWG as reviewer and accepted ED: OK <scribe> ACTION: chris to bulk review the old SVGWG tests with no status that have been published already [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-2870 - Bulk review the old SVGWG tests with no status that have been published already [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-09-21]. AG: Dominant baselines is inconsistent i browsers because it is not clear from the spec how to get it. No viewer gets it right CL: Question is, is the test implementable or is there an issue/ Where do you get the dominant baseline of a random Unicode character? AG: Abbra is almost right ... ASV not entirely right tbah: Sanscrit is supposed to be on hanging baseline? AG: Yes ... Adobe shid=ft in right direction but not by the right amount. Overshoot for small text sizes [22]http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/text.html#AlignmentProperties [22] http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/text.html#AlignmentProperties AG: You pull this out of the font CL: SVG fonts don't have that info. tbah: Don't think you can get this from Pango. ED: Does this require getting baseline info? Not available on all platforms CL: Better to have defined fallback, for SVG 2 <scribe> ACTION: Anthony to investigate how to get dominant baseline [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html#action02] <trackbot> Created ACTION-2871 - Investigate how to get dominant baseline [on Anthony Grasso - due 2010-09-21]. <scribe> Agenda: [24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010JulSep/012 2.html [24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010JulSep/0122.html ED: What is the freeze date for CR report? CL: without a freeze we won't have any implementation reports Resolved: test freeze at end of September 2010 for 1.1SE CR report <scribe> ACTION: Erik to check tests that need to be reviewed before the freeze [recorded in [25]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html#action03] <trackbot> Created ACTION-2872 - Check tests that need to be reviewed before the freeze [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-09-21]. SVG Integration ED: Are we trying to get it published so HTML5 is OK for HTML5 last call AG: I have new generated tables, committed them (checks) ... yes they are checked in. elements table complete ... attr table needs more work ED: Can we get HTML5 to reference this spec? DS: Yes, people are interested in integration issues especially implementors ... Jeff Schiller pointed out some issues with iframe/image/object recently ... will get this ready in next week or two ED: need to move on this before its too late CL: HTML WG discussed their schedule at HTCG DS: Several open actions on Integration ... Updated params spec and script implementation, will commit soon ED: Next FX tf next week? Is that too soon? adjourned Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Anthony to investigate how to get dominant baseline [recorded in [26]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: chris to bulk review the old SVGWG tests with no status that have been published already [recorded in [27]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: Erik to check tests that need to be reviewed before the freeze [recorded in [28]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-svg-minutes.html#action03] [End of minutes] -- Chris Lilley Technical Director, Interaction Domain W3C Graphics Activity Lead, Fonts Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Member, CSS, WebFonts, SVG Working Groups
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