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Re: Minutes, SVG WG Brussels f2f day 4 (Monday)

From: Robert O'Callahan <robert@ocallahan.org>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 15:46:08 +1200
Message-ID: <AANLkTinOC0w1Mdh9oEDHL3Z3xszY7dV5c6UJrVPX1v3P@mail.gmail.com>
To: Patrick Dengler <patd@microsoft.com>
Cc: www-svg@w3.org, Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
> <AlexD> Are there any tests for HTMl5 parsing conformance?
> pdengler: MSIE 9 hsa no plans for this, its for later. first we need to
> rationalise and unionise many things
> ... i could throw out some idea on default inlining SVG... putting an XY
> coordinateon a div in svg, that wont hold unless you ge tthe other stuff
> sorted
> ... we have to nail the union of the 2 specs

Does this mean that Microsoft isn't committed to following the HTML5 spec
for parsing SVG in HTML? Because Microsoft has tests for parsing SVG in
HTML, where they compare IE9 Dev Preview to released versions of other
These tests are listed as "HTML5" tests. It would seem ... odd ... to claim
parsing SVG in HTML as an HTML5 feature while not actually committing to
follow the HTML5 spec for that feature.

I should also point out that all of the Microsoft SVG-in-HTML tests that I
looked at are invalid according to the HTML5 spec. They all rely on the IE
bug where the DOM 'childNodes' list does not include text nodes that are
entirely collapsed whitespace. These tests should really be fixed or removed
... it doesn't look good to claim a higher degree of HTML5 conformance than
other browsers based on tests that rely on an IE HTML5 conformance bug.

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