- From: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:03:15 +0100
- To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
- Cc: www-svg@w3.org
On Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 1:32:27 PM, Ian wrote: IH> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Chris Lilley wrote: >>> >>> 'filter' in particular is a problem. It clashes with a property that >>> was in an older draft of CSS2, and which was implemented by IE. >> >> This is sheer historical revisionism. I was there, and you were not. >> Microsoft first implemented the property, as a vendor extension, then >> suggested adding their filter effects to CSS. There was some interest, >> but they were unable in spite of repeated requests to come up with any >> defined processing model or definition of what they did beyond the >> actual names. IH> I'm sorry if you thought I was saying that it was put in CSS2 first, IH> that certainly wasn't supposed to be implied by my statement above. Okay, good. I realize that your brief summary above was merely illustrative, but it managed to take a swipe at SVG in passing which seemed quite unfair. IH> I am fully aware of Microsoft's business practices. Unfortunately such practices are not confined to one company. >>> It basically means that IE will never be able to implement SVG in >>> HTML. (A lot of legacy content uses the 'filter' property.) >> >> Which is entirely the CSS WG fault for not providing a standard >> alternative in a timely manner. IH> You were the chair of the CSS WG at the time, right? Yes, and if the group doesn't agree, well, the chair can't make them agree. I was really annoyed at the bait and switch, but there we are. IH> Look, I wasn't trying to accuse anyone of anything, and I'm not IH> really sure why you misinterpreted my comments. I'm glad you are not accusing anyone. It sounded very like it. IH> I was just pointing out that property name clashes are a real IH> problem, since it was suggested that they weren't and that SVG 1.1's IH> existing properties were proof of this. Which is why I suggested that property names be namespaced, but I lost that one, too. -- Chris Lilley mailto:chris@w3.org Chair, W3C SVG Working Group Member, W3C Technical Architecture Group
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