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[css-inline-3] Status of initial-letter Issues

From: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:38:53 -0700
To: "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
Cc: Jen Simmons <jensimmons@mozilla.com>
Message-ID: <3186c924-9cbb-51f6-3dce-2f99e133553d@inkedblade.net>
Dave Cramer and I worked through the pile of outstanding initial-letter issues
a couple weeks ago. Here's where they all stand and what we need from the CSSWG:

Issues that need CSSWG Discussion

We'd like to discuss the issues below on the June 27th telecon, if possible.
Our goal is to publish an updated WD with the issues resolved asap (and
continue working on the remaining issues afterwards, of course), so please
post comments if you have feedback. :)

#884  define interaction of initial-letter and text-align
Proposal at https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/884#issuecomment-392114382
Open: =WG= Review and approve?

#360 & #689 interaction with floats.
Edits made based on F2F discussions.
Open: =WG= Approve?

#2705  Should 'initial-letter' apply to 'list-style: inside' ::marker?
Proposal: Yes.
Open: =WG= Discuss.

#688  initial-letter and float on same element.
Proposal A: Close as invalid (no change; display computation wins)
Proposal B: 'initial-letter' wins over 'float' (and affects display computation?)
Open: =WG= Discuss.

#2700 properties that apply to initial-letter list
We replaced the fixed list of properties that apply to initial-letter
with saying all properties that apply to inlines apply, listing a
few exceptions, see
Open: =WG= Discuss.

#863  apply width/height to initial letters
We added a first pass of edits; review requested.
Open: =WG= Review.

#885  allow shape-outside to apply
Proposal A: 'shape-outside', if defined, overrides glyph outline
Proposal B: 'shape-outside', if defined, overrides margin edges;
             using glyph outline requires new 'shape-outside' value
Open: =WG= Discuss.

#310  Initial Letter selection and hanging punctuation
Clarifications made:
Feedback requested on some open questions:

#2184  box tree nesting vs initial-letter
Defining how initial-letter applies in nested inline boxes
We made a series of edits, looking for review:
Open: =WG= Review.

#862  should initial-letter be plural?
A question of usability vs. existing implementations.
Open: =WG= Discuss.

Issues that need i18n or typographic input

#410  auto value for initial-letter-wrap
Currently the first line is not kerned automatically,
unless `first` is specified *and* the next character is
not white space. We're unsure whether this set of rules
is applicable to all languages or if we need other options.

#864  South Indian top alignment
Need info on correct handling of scripts like Tamil and Telugu

#965  adjacent initial letter.
If the intent is to place the initial letter in the margin,
this is currently possible. If the intent is to make space
to the end of the paragraph and then subsequent paragraphs
start underneath the letter, then we need to do something
different. None of the examples given span multiple paragraphs,
so we need more info.


#735  how does initial letter sink?
Closed:  Accepted. (Clarifications made based on earlier discussions.)
Changes: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/commit/9b664153e0a8f9c39961f906d2e016dd53093716
No WG action needed.

#947  Errors in defining CJK exclusion area.
Closed:  Accepted. (Fixed the fairly obvious errors in the obvious way.)
Changes: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/commit/2171624f8df3550c58c08e5d4abd93047e945cfd
No WG action needed.

#2404 Define interaction with fragmentation
Closed:  Accepted
Changes: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/commit/026cf1d730147f13941541fdb153115b417836a9
No WG action needed.

#2399 Arabic shaping across boundaries
Closed:  Accepted
Changes: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/commit/02a64aa1ee6045d11e47ebf4646cb05da407af6b
No WG action needed.

#703 Define interaction with overflow and intrinsic sizing
Closed:  Invalid
Reasons: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2703#issuecomment-392116527
No WG action needed.

Ongoing Work

We have some ideas on #719 and #887, but haven't yet written them up properly.

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