- From: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
- Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 15:38:55 -0700
- To: Tantek Çelik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu>, Xidorn Quan <quanxunzhen@gmail.com>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
Tantek, We discussed the CSS Scrollbars spec at the Sydney F2F; https://drafts.csswg.org/css-scrollbars-1/ https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2018Jul/0031.html but ran out of time before we were able to conclude on an FPWD. Sorry for holding it up. It seemed to have prompted a lot of people to look more closely at the spec, though, and some good issues were filed. My take on FPWD is that a few things should be resolved first -- https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1958 =WG= We almost, but apparently didn't, resolve on adding scrollbar-width. To follow up on the F2F discussion, I think we should, as discussed at the F2F, resolve to add it with the superset of the values discussed, and, as discussed, mark brightly in the draft that the value space is under discussion (and also that renaming it scrollbar-max-width, if we choose to allow <length> values, is also a possibility). We can then file a follow-up issue on the value space and another on the name (possibly repurposing #2966). https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2879 =WG= Strongly agree to adding some shorthands here, and they should be in the FPWD. This should be pretty simple. https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2009 There's a lot of controversy around styling scrollbars, and more than any other spec we've published so far, I think it's important that we have a good discussion of the scope and why we're taking this approach and rejecting others. There are a lot of comments in the various open issues from which you can lift all the relevant arguments to make in this section: it'd be worth going through them and incorporating them into your scope section / introduction. https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1960 =WG= I don't think we can in good conscience accept FPWD without also accepting this issue :) https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2967 Might be worth addressing if we care about patents and FPWD; otherwise discussion can be deferred until after FPWD. https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2898 Clarifying what “track” and “face” are, and explaining a little better how colors map to other parts of a scrollbar or giving some advice and a few examples of how additional colors are derived from the given colors when needed would probably help everyone understand the intent of the feature a little better. Overall, I strongly agree with your approach to scrollbar styling, and I recommend to the CSSWG to adopt the spec. I look forward to discussing the =WG= issues on the agenda, to reading your scope edits and clarifications, and to approving FPWD for this spec. ~fantasai
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