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Re: [css-writing-modes] computed value for text-orientation: sideways or sideways-right

From: Florian Rivoal <florian@rivoal.net>
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 23:01:14 +0900
Cc: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gmail.com>, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>, 馬場孝夫 <baba@bpsinc.jp>, Gérard Talbot <www-style@gtalbot.org>, W3C www-style mailing list <www-style@w3.org>
Message-Id: <02B99D99-DEEB-4EC8-90FD-5798CAFC3E30@rivoal.net>
To: Jonathan Kew <jfkthame@gmail.com>

> On 19 Sep 2015, at 22:46, Jonathan Kew <jfkthame@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 19/9/15 13:26, Koji Ishii wrote:
>> The original topic is just about serialization, used in
>> getComputedStyle() and a few other places. Jonathan might need to
>> resolve it now, and I need it too very soon. Can we simply straw poll on
>> the next conf call, resolve, and do other discussions after that?
> 
> Yes, please -- I'm implementing this in gecko right now, so clarification on this would be really useful.
> 
>> 
>> <div id=a style="text-orientation:sideways"></div>
>> <div id=b style="text-orientation:sideways-right"></div>
>> <script>
>> console.log(getComputedStyle(a).style.textOrientation);
>> console.log(getComputedStyle(b).style.textOrientation);
>> </script>
>> 
>> Option A: it prints "sideways" and "sideways-right"
>> Option B: it prints "sideways" and "sideways"
>> Option C: it prints "sideways-right" and "sideways-right"
>> 
>> Current situation:
>> * Jonathan, Florian, and I prefer B.
>> * Takao prefers C.
>> * fantasai didn't show her preference IIUC but proposing a rename to
>> "sideways-lr".
>> 
>>> I think I would like to investigate the backwards-compat impact
>>> of switching to 'text-orientation: sideways-rl' and dropping
>>> the other keywords, since that would be a little easier to type,
>>> but also clearer and more consistent with the corresponding
>>> writing-mode' keywords... what is your opinion on that, if it
>>> is feasible?
>> 
>> I disagree. 'writing-mode' is about direction, so "l-to-r" and "r-to-l"
>> makes sense. 'text-orientation' is about orientation, so "right" makes
>> sense.
> 
> And I agree with Koji here: I don't think 'sideways-rl' is good as a 'text-orientation' value. This property is distinct from 'writing-mode' and it's better not to confuse the values of the two.
> 
> So my preference is still the simple 'sideways', with the alias 'sideways-right' supported for backward compatibility (option B above).
> 

For what it's worth, I agree as well, as Koji said.

 - Florian
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