Re: [css-writing-modes] computed value for text-orientation: sideways or sideways-right

2015/09/18 9:33 "fantasai" <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>:
>
> On 09/17/2015 05:42 PM, Gérard Talbot wrote:
>>
>> Le 2015-09-17 06:51, Jonathan Kew a écrit :
>>>
>>> The recently-updated draft[1] says:
>>>
>>> # Name:           text-orientation
>>> # Value:          mixed | upright | sideways-right | sideways
>>> # ...
>>> # Computed value: specified value
>>>
>>> Given that 'sideways' and 'sideways-right' are defined to be
>>> equivalent, could/should we change this such that 'sideways-right'
>>> computes to 'sideways' (or possibly vice versa)? Then the UA can treat
>>> this as a simple alias during parsing, and avoid the need to keep
>>> track of the specified value just so that getComputedStyle() can
>>> return it correctly.
>>>
>>> Which of 'sideways' or 'sideways-right' do we want to promote as the
>>> "canonical" computed value, and which should be an alias? (My vote
>>> goes to the simpler 'sideways', fwiw.)
>>>
>>> JK
>>>
>>> [1]
https://drafts.csswg.org/css-writing-modes-3/#propdef-text-orientation
>>
>>
>> I believe that 'sideways' should just be removed. Just my opinion.
>>
>> If, one day, 'sideways-left' is reintroduced, then we should also
>> reintroduce 'sideways' like in the original intent of the spec,
>> meaning :
>>
>> "'sideways' value is equivalent to sideways-right in vertical-rl
>> writing mode and equivalent to sideways-left in vertical-lr
>> writing mode."
>
>
> Since the use cases for the automatic rotation are mainly for
> horizontal scripts, and these will be using the new 'sideways-lr'
> and 'sideways-rl' values of 'writing-mode', there might not be
> much need for such a value in the future. It seems to me it would
> be better to optimize for the CJK users who will need to use the
> 'text-orientation' property with much more frequency, and so it
> makes sense to use a shorter name.
>
> The alternative, which may still be possible depending on the
> status of implementations and Web content, would be to drop
> both values and use 'sideways-rl' as a keyword:
>
>   text-orientation: upright | mixed | sideways-rl
>
> (EPUB content should be using -epub- prefixed syntax, so would
> not be affected.)
>
>
>> By the way, Example 8 in
>> https://drafts.csswg.org/css-writing-modes-3/#text-orientation
>> no longer makes perfect sense now that sideways-left has been removed.
>
>
> Removed. Thanks~
> ~fantasai

Agree to prefer 'sideways'.

/koji