On 08/31/2015 07:22 PM, fantasai wrote: > On 06/17/2015 02:28 AM, fantasai wrote: >> Suggestion that came out of discussions at CSSDay: Put a conformance requirement >> on *authoring tools* that whenever they reorder something visually, it's reflected >> in the DOM (and not just hacked up with CSS grid positioning or 'order') unless the >> author explicitly requested (i.e. opted in) to keep them different. > > Proposed wording: > > In order to preserve the author's intended ordering in all presentation modes, > authoring tools--including WYSIWYG editors as well as Web-based authoring aids-- > must reorder the underlying document source and not use 'order' to perform > reordering unless the author has explicitly indicated that the underlying > document order (which determines speech and navigation order) should be > <em>out-of-sync</em> with the visual order. > > For example, a tool might offer both drag-and-drop reordering of flex items > as well as handling of media queries for alternate layouts per screen size > range. Since most of the time, reordering should affect all screen ranges as > well as navigation and speech order, the tool would perform drag-and-drop > reordering at the DOM layer. In some cases, however, the author may want > different visual orderings per screen size. The tool could offer this > functionality using 'order' together with media queries, but also tie the > smallest screen size's ordering to the underlying DOM order (since this is > most likely to be a logical linear presentation order) while using 'order' > to determine the visual presentation order in other size ranges. This tool > would be conformant, whereas a tool that only ever used 'order' to handle > drag-and-drop reordering (however convenient it might be to implement it > that way) would be non-conformant. This has now been adopted by the CSSWG and is incorporated into both the Flexbox and Grid Layout modules. ~fantasaiReceived on Tuesday, 15 September 2015 22:43:45 UTC
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