W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > www-style@w3.org > January 2015

Re: [css-flexbox] Accessibility of Order

From: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:15:18 -0500
Message-ID: <54BEA946.2040406@inkedblade.net>
To: Bo J Campbell <bcampbell@us.ibm.com>, Bruce Lawson <brucel@opera.com>
CC: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>, www-style list <www-style@w3.org>
On 01/20/2015 01:27 PM, Bo J Campbell wrote:
> By "inaccessible" I mean that it does not comply with WCAG accessibility standards and therefore cannot be released or sold to
> entities that require a product to be "accessible" according to these standards. This is an enormous market (100's of millions
> of dollars) and the standards keep the term "accessible" from being subjective.
> WCAG does allow the nav to be in front of the main content in this instance (simple holy grail layout) since the order can be
> considered meaningless (debatable in my mind). A page order must follow the meaningful sequence. However, if Flexbox forces
> the tab order to follow the DOM and not the updated Box Tree, developers are unable to do really creative things with Flexbox,
> which is where the real power of Flexbox can be realized. Consider using flexbox to rearrange data items as they come into an
> app, or for letting the user customize the order. In those cases where the sequence is meaningful, it would be powerful to
> tell the UA that it's meaningful and have the tab follow the updated Box Tree like Mozilla is currently already doing.

Our general position is that if the order is meaningful,
it should be reflected in the DOM tree. That way everything
operating on the document is working off the same ordering.

Received on Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:15:48 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.4.0 : Friday, 25 March 2022 10:08:50 UTC