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Re: [css-flexbox] Accessibility of Order

From: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 17:01:38 -0800
Message-ID: <CAAWBYDAoGDQGZ9J42nA2zHNWMjJ5WfxDQ=XbuvqBSyM-P4geog@mail.gmail.com>
To: Bo J Campbell <bcampbell@us.ibm.com>
Cc: www-style list <www-style@w3.org>
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Bo J Campbell <bcampbell@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> I have added a general example of the reason why the tab order needs to be
> updated to match the visual order when it is changed via Flexbox Order. In
> turn, the accessibility API should also get the same visual flow.
> https://wiki.csswg.org/spec/css3-flexbox/accessibility
> I would like to continue understanding any further arguments stopping this
> proposal since PF is asking for this, IBM and Freedom Scientific agree this
> is what needs to happen, and I believe I have addressed the arguments made
> so far in the wiki document.

Your examples are all trivial, and don't illustrate one of the primary
use-cases for 'order', such as Example 7 in the spec, where the
*intended behavior* is to put the main content first in the markup
*precisely so that* it will show up first in tabbing order, and then
visually arrange the sidebars relative to the main content in some
arbitrary style-dependent way.

We continue to bring this up as a counter-example every time, and it's
somewhat frustrating to see it continually brushed aside in favor of
trivial examples that don't provide compelling reasons to preserve
source order.

Received on Saturday, 10 January 2015 01:02:24 UTC

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