- From: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 17:28:42 -0800
- To: "Belov, Charles" <Charles.Belov@sfmta.com>
- Cc: "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Belov, Charles <Charles.Belov@sfmta.com> wrote: > Tab Atkins Jr. wrote on Wednesday, December 02, 2015 10:07 AM >>On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Belov, Charles <Charles.Belov@sfmta.com> wrote: >>It might also be helpful to expand that to include the expected behavior for keyboard navigation. >> >>> Perhaps something like: >>[snip stuff about "don't return to the previous snap point if using arrow keys] > >>That's also already in the draft. ^_^ >><https://drafts.csswg.org/css-scroll-snap/#choosing>, 5th bullet point, starting with "User agents must ensure that a user can "escape" >>a snap position, regardless of the scroll method.". > > Thank you, Tab. I would suggest removing > "Instead, a smarter algorithm that only returned to the starting snap position if the end-point was a fairly small distance from it, and otherwise ignored the starting snap position, would give better behavior." > as contrary to > "User agents must ensure that a user can "escape" a snap position, regardless of the scroll method." > for a single press of an up-arrow or down-arrow key. Those are intended to be slightly contradicatory; there are multiple conflicting desires in a good snapping implementation, which a UA has to balance. That said, if a keypress doesn't guarantee an escape, then it violates the MUST-level requirement. Keypresses are non-inertial, so if a single keypress can't escape, multiple keypresses can't either. > I sometimes press the up- or down-arrow only once or twice to reveal text that has been skipped by a Scroll Down or Scroll Up on a page that has part of the page covered by a stationary top or bottom navigation div. > > If I'm trying to only escape by a line or two, I don't want the browser second-guessing me that I didn't really mean to escape. Ideally, future pages will use Flexbox or Grid so their top/bottom navs actually take up space, rather than overlaying the content. ^_^ ~TJ
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