- From: Håkon Wium Lie <howcome@opera.com>
- Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 18:12:59 +0200
- To: Johannes Wilm <johanneswilm@vivliostyle.com>
- Cc: www-style list <www-style@w3.org>, public-ppl@w3.org
Johannes Wilm wrote: > I have spent the last few weeks looking at the manuals of PrinceXML, the > Antennahouse Formatter, Håkon Wium Lie's CSS Figure Spec [1] and have > discussed with the Vivliostyle team what they would need from a page float > spec. > > I have tried to add the most important points to the CSS Page Float spec > draft http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-page-floats/ It's good to see renewed interest in Page Floats; I believe the approach taken fits well with the capabilities of CSS and the needs of publishers. I also undertand the need to reduce scope to tempt implementors. However, it's important to support the most common use cases. THE use case for page floats is an image spanning two columns, floating to the top corner of the article. Like the random example found here: http://www.wildcatfund.org/ArticleSmallCat.jpg To achive this, one would write code like: article { columns: 3 } h1 { column-span: all } img { column-span: 2; float: top; float-defer-column: last } This example is not possible to achieve in the current draft as 'column-span: <integer>' is not available. I understand that it can be described in some other specification/level. However, as these features are so commonly used together, I think it makes sense to encourage implementors to treat them as a bundle by having them in the same spec. It also makes it easier to write sample code and to do maintenance in general. Another simplficiation that has been made is to combine the proposed 'float-defer-page' and 'float-defer-column' into one property. While I'm stingy on properties myself, there are several important use cases where where you need to both defer to a certain page and a certain column. For example, if you're making a 4-column newsletter where the editorial should appear on page 2, spanning the middle 2 columns, you would say: aside.editorial { float: top; float-defer-page: 1; float-defer-column: 1; column-span: 2; } Or, say you want a certin do to go into the outer column on the third page: #ad1 { float: top; float-defer-page: 2; float-defer-column: outside; } These are quite common use cases once you start making page-based publications. So, I suggest that the float-defer property is de-combined. The inside/outside keywords on float have also been removed in the draft. They're quite useful, and to me they are core to page floats. Using them, you can make sidenotes like in this document: http://css4.pub/2015/textbook/somatosensory.pdf http://css4.pub/2015/textbook/somatosensory.html In any case, they will be available from here: https://figures.spec.whatwg.org/#floating-inside-and-outside-pages Cheers, -h&kon Håkon Wium Lie CTO °þe®ª howcome@opera.com http://people.opera.com/howcome
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