- From: Liam R E Quin <liam@w3.org>
- Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 19:21:50 -0400
- To: "Jan Tosovsky" <j.tosovsky@email.cz>
- Cc: <www-style@w3.org>
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 23:40:49 +0200 "Jan Tosovsky" <j.tosovsky@email.cz> wrote: > On 2014-08-23 Liam R E Quin wrote: > > You need the formatter to collapse ranges [...] > I hope this collapsing will be optional. Yes. > I distinguish (but who else cares?): > primary 9-10 (the term is discussed thoroughly within this range) > primary 9, 10 (there are individual occurrences on every particular page) Yes, there's a property to let you intermix these treatments. > I also expect those directly specified ranges ending up as 10-10 merged just > into 10. I think I forgot to mention that explicitly, although it's in XSL-FO. > > > I wrote a short blog entry on this: > > http://barefootliam.blogspot.ca/2014/08/back-of-book-indexes-and- > > css.html > > A nice overview. > > I'd like to add a note to column balancing. When it is employed, there is > another constraint to cope with to meet all typographic rules: > (1) Page register (the last line should be placed at the same position on > every page) > (2) Orphan/Widow (no single line should be located at the end/top of the > page) > (3) Balanced columns Yes, I agree - but these are not special to formatting of an index, so I didn't get into it here. > When e.g. the first column ends with the letter followed with the first > entry (primary): > - should this block be overflown to the next column? Should the next column > be balanced? If so, this page won't meet the page register. Copy-fitting is another problem, and again I agree it's important and particularly obvious in an index. I'm trying to focus on only one aspect because I think it's easier to persuade people to make a small change, and because the small change is the only part specific to an index; more work on keep-together, keep-with-next, column balancing and "try to make this content fit this space" (copy fitting) will have to follow and I hope you'll help us make it work :-) [...] > I am not so optimistic about the automatic sorting. E.g. Czech rules define > different sort order for the first and the second letter. Neither am I - but my proposal is only for formatting. Sorting the index could be done with XSLT, or with people who prefer a procedural approach, python or JavaScript, and yes, using surrogate keys (sort-as) where needed. Probably I should add a complete worked example to my blog, so people can get a clearer idea of what I'm trying to propose, so that they can shoot it down more easily :-) Thanks for your comments. Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/
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