On Oct 28, 2013 9:18 PM, "L. David Baron" <dbaron@dbaron.org> wrote: > > On Monday 2013-10-28 17:35 -0700, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 5:29 PM, L. David Baron <dbaron@dbaron.org> wrote: > > > On Monday 2013-10-28 17:02 -0700, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > > >> Regions, or at least something very similar to them, are clearly the > > >> primitive underlying Multicol and some of the more exotic Page > > >> features. > > > > > > I don't think so -- these other features all describe their layout > > > model in a way allows implementations to do layout in a specific > > > order without such a multi-pass model. And I'm not convinced that > > > the complex multi-pass model is regions actually allows describing > > > things like the intrinsic sizing of multicol. > > > > This is also fine. It's okay for the sugar to optimize things better > > than authors can achieve on their own. > > > > Sizing is a whole nother thing to eventually expose. We're chipping > > away at this piece by piece; don't think it's worthless just because > > not everything has been revealed yet. > > I don't think "expose" is what regions is doing here. This isn't a > pre-existing primitive. Sure, you can make it a new primitive and > rebuild other things on top of it -- but that doesn't make it the > thing they were built on before, nor does it make it the right > primitive to build them on (which I don't think it is). > > -David > > -- > š¯„˛ L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ š¯„‚ > š¯„¢ Mozilla https://www.mozilla.org/ š¯„‚ > Before I built a wall I'd ask to know > What I was walling in or walling out, > And to whom I was like to give offense. > - Robert Frost, Mending Wall (1914) So David, are there other ways to explain existing things at a similar-ish layer that would satisfy more of what you are looking for... I am still trying a but to understand your objection, it may help to have a counter example.
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