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Re: [Bulk] @with -- DRY syntax for nesting selectors

From: François REMY <fremycompany_pub@yahoo.fr>
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:06:07 +0100
Message-ID: <8DE35DA41AD746B98AF7F387BC2C3B73@FREMY2>
To: "Marat Tanalin | tanalin.com" <mtanalin@yandex.ru>, <www-style@w3.org>
This is rougly what was known as "scoped styles". I don't know where we are 
with this at the moment, however. The idea was to modify the root of the 

@scope (.message) {
    :root { ... }
    .text { ...}
    button { ... }

-----Message d'origine----- 
From: Marat Tanalin | tanalin.com
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:29 PM
To: www-style@w3.org
Subject: [Bulk] @with -- DRY syntax for nesting selectors

One of features most demanded by web developers is grouping/nesting 
selectors DRY way.

Current CSS syntax is far from being DRY since it forces web developers to 
inevitably repeat themselves again and again and again by repeating same 
parts of selectors multiple times.

I propose following convenient syntax:

    @with (selectors) {
        rules and @with's

    * selectors means a selector or multiple comma-separated selectors;
    * rules are CSS rules;
    * @with's are nested @with at-rules.

Let's consider following example CSS code:

    #example .foo .bar {background: #ccc; }

    #example .foo .bar > DIV,
    #example .foo .bar > P {color: #00f; }

    #example .foo .bar > DIV > A,
    #example .foo .bar > DIV > STRONG {font-style: italic; }

    #example .foo .bar > DIV SPAN {color: #a00; }

With the proposed syntax, the code would get more DRY, compact, readable, 
and eventually much more maintainable:

    @with (#example .foo .bar) {
        :this {background: #ccc; }

        :this > DIV,
        :this > P {color: #00f; }

        @with (:this > DIV) {
            :this > A,
            :this > STRONG {font-style: italic; }

            SPAN {color: #a00; }

As you can see, :this pseudoclass points to selector of immediate containing 
@with and is used to attach declarations to @with selector itself as well as 
to use in conjunction with child combinator (>). Descendant selectors do not 
need for :this since they are automatically resolved in context of subject 
selectors of their corresponding @with.

We actually could use even more DRY/compact syntax where :this is implied:

    @with (#example .foo .bar) {
        {background: #ccc; }

        > DIV,
        > P {color: #00f; }

        @with (:this > DIV) {
            > A,
            > STRONG {font-style: italic; }

            SPAN {color: #a00; }

It'd perfectly OK for me, but is not as critical (though would be desirable 
anyway) as conceptual ability to prevent repeating selectors as such.

Compared with existing nonstandard solutions like LESS or SASS, the syntax 
proposed above avoids mixing declarations (property/value pairs) and rules 
on same nesting level (such mixing is generally a bad idea, and this is 
implicitly proved out, for example, by the fact that we don't have this in 
CSS standard so far).

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