- From: Richard Le Poidevin <ric@betleywhitehorne.com>
- Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 09:25:43 +0000
- To: www-style@gtalbot.org
- CC: Peter Sorotokin <psorotok@adobe.com>, Alan Gresley <alan@css-class.com>, W3C www-style mailing list <www-style@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <4F056C97.2070008@betleywhitehorne.com>
Hello Gérard, InDesign isn't a WYSIWYG HTML editor although it can export HTML (probably not very well!). It's a print layout tool by Adobe that is similar to Quark Express. It's become the industry standard for print layouts in magazines, documents, brochures and I think even newspapers - basically it good at handling lots of text. I mentioned it here as it most clearly illustrated how line-height (leading) has been traditionally applied and the advantages it has for vertically aligning text. Whilst not everything Adobe do is great they do have a lot of experience with typography. Regards Ric On 05/01/2012 02:23, "Gérard Talbot" wrote: > Le Mer 4 janvier 2012 16:32, Peter Sorotokin a écrit : >> >> On 1/4/12 12:13 PM, "Gérard Talbot"<www-style@gtalbot.org> wrote: >> >>> Le Mer 4 janvier 2012 11:27, Peter Sorotokin a écrit : >>>> Just to add two cents here: mismatch in leading model (and in vertical >>>> spacing) is indeed a huge pain for tools like InDesign. >>> Peter, >>> >>> I do not understand why you are not the first person to say that Adobe >>> tool like InDesign is not perfectly, entirely compliant with CSS 2.1 to >>> begin with, to start with and it should be entirely compliant with CSS >>> 2.1 >>> (and possibly ATAG 1.0). Standards are mutually beneficial to compliant >>> parties. >>> There is no compatibility/incompatibility problems (headaches, >>> nightmares) >>> if we all follow and implement W3C web standards. >> Gérard, >> >> I do not understand your point. In what sense do you expect InDesign to be >> CSS-2.1-compliant, given that there are tons of features in InDesign that >> are not addressed even in CSS3? >> > Peter, > > I do not use InDesign. I assumed from reading this thread - maybe I'm > wrong here - that InDesign is an WYSIWYG HTML editor with CSS editing > capabilities. If this is the case and if InDesign does not split leading > above and below content area, then such authoring tool is not > CSS-2.1-compliant. > > > [snipped] > > >> The problem occurs when a multi-line paragraph with large leading (say, >> line-height:2) gets broken across two pages. Proper typography requires >> top edge of the first line on the second page to be aligned with the top >> edge of the printable area of the page. In CSS it will be shifted down >> one-half of the leading. On the first page it can be "fixed" using >> negative margin, but not on the second page. (And negative margin trick, >> of course, only works when line-height does not change in the paragraph >> and hen there is no background). > Okay. I understand that issue now. > > regards, Gérard
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