- From: Matthew Wilcox <elvendil@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:12:43 +0000
- To: Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
- Cc: www-style@w3.org
I disagree. Regardless, this is off topic. On 22 February 2012 11:02, Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote: > On 2012/02/22 08:45 (GMT) Matthew Wilcox composed: > > >> Well that's never going to happen. > > > That what? > > >> Designers size text, and I think >> it's their moral responsibility to do so in fact. > > > Because the discussion is about sizing on the root element, changing the > base size, the meaning of what you wrote is that it's the moral > responsibility of designers to disrespect visitors by sizing text on the > root element, to either disregard entirely or presume wrong the visitors' > default settings. That's an oxymoron. > > >> The browser can >> re-scale what we designers feel is an appropriate default, so there is >> no loss for anyone. > > > Of course there is a loss. Disrespecting defaults means the visitor loses > time and is aggravated in being required to apply a defensive action in > response to your offensive assumption that it's even possible for you to > know his default is wrong coupled, with asserting your ridiculous assumption > via a change in base font size. The loss is more than you probably imagine. > Many people who could and would use a computer don't or won't due to the > bother and difficulties the pervasiveness of tiny web fonts brings them. > > Again, changing the base size is saying the defaults are wrong, something no > designer can possibly know. And it's saying it's not OK for users to > "re"-size in advance by conforming their defaults to their own requirements, > but instead should reserve that action via zoom for individual pages after > loading them, which to you is OK, and never mind that browsers have minimum > size options that when used destroy your contextual sizing. > > >> Consider fonts where the x-height is considerably different. > > > Different than what? Absent scripting gyrations, which is outside the scope > of CSS, you can't know what my default's x-height is any more than you know > where my tax collector's grandfather was born. > > >> I know a >> few where the default '16px' browsers use is visually far too small to >> be comparable with the standard fonts. > > > Again, http://tobyinkster.co.uk/article/web-fonts/ addresses your assertion. > > >> It's my duty to adjust that. > > > Right, a "duty" to be disrespectful, since you don't know the meaning of > size under this roof, my neighbor's roof or the anyone else's other than > your own. > > >> I do it by editing font sizes on html, and it would be wrong of me not to. > > > Except as for correcting the legacy IE bug, it's always semantically wrong > to apply any style whatsoever on the HTML element. And it's always rude to > assume the visitors' defaults are wrong. > http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/rudeweb.html > > -- > "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant > words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) > > Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! > > Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ >
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