- From: Daniel Weck <daniel.weck@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:20:24 +0100
- To: Gregory Rosmaita <gregory.rosmaita@gmail.com>
- Cc: www-style@w3.org, wai-xtech <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Hi Greg, CSS2 provides [1] a sample user-agent default stylesheet for HTML4, which obviously is informative (as you rightly pointed-out, CSS is markup-agnostic). I considered adding a similar appendix for CSS3-Speech, but I should think that modern HTML5 would be a better candidate, which unfortunately means working with a moving target at this point in time. I also believe that this should be a concerted effort, which wouldn't really fit in the release timeframe for Level 3 of the CSS Speech Module. This is something we should aim for during the next revision of the specification, which would allow time for the community at large to reach a consensus on recommended default speech values for HTML5 markup. In other words, I suggest to defer your proposal to include a " default user-agent stylesheet" informative appendix, and I would encourage a parallel activity to take place (e.g. within the realm of a W3C Community Group?). Please let me know if this addresses your concerns for this round of editing. Regarding your question #2, I suggest you take a look at the "cascade" definition [2], which unambiguously defines the resolution process of user-defined versus author-defined styles. Regards, Daniel [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/sample.html [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/cascade.html#cascade On 1 Oct 2011, at 04:15, Gregory Rosmaita wrote: > aloha! > > currently, the example contained in 10.5. "The 'voice-stress' property" > contains speech values applied via use of the generic SPAN element -- > while there is nothing inherently wrong with this approach as it is > markup-language agnostic, and hence may be intentional... i wonder, > however, if a "learning opportunity" may be lost by not providing an > example that includes the sort of real-life bindings for which css3 may > be most extensively used: > > for example, a VERY simple client-side css3-speech stylesheet might > contain: > > body { voice-stress: normal; } > i { voice-stress: moderate; } > em { voice-stress: moderate; } > b { voice-stress: strong; } > strong { voice-stress: strong; } > > as a means of ensuring that an end user can set equivalent values for > synonymical bits of markup -- in the age of script-driven sites and > aggregated content, it is not unusual for a single "document instance" > to contain content that uses both the EM/STRONG and B/STRONG tandem > > OPTIONS: > > 1. is this something that could/should be addressed/included as an > informative appendix? a sample client-side css3-speech stylesheet for > "generic" HTML-based browsing? if so, i could assist in the composition > of such an appendix/example... > > 2. do client-side css3-speech settings over-ride or compliment author- > defined speech styling? using the simple client side stylesheet > thumbnailed above, would the voice-stress settings set by the user > trump those provided by an author, or -- if the author provides different > css3-speech properties than those provided by the user (for example, a > change in voice-stress or voice-volume) -- could/would the client AND > author provided properties be applied to the marked text? > > for example, barring the presence of a !important on the client-side > css3-speech stylesheet, could a speech output user set the currently > active speech engine to apply both the user-defined AND the author > defined properties, should the end user so desire? > > <!-- client-side stylesheet --> > body { voice-stress: normal; } > i { voice-stress: moderate; } > b { voice-stress: strong; voice-volume: loud; } > > <!-- author-defined stylesheet --> > i { voice-range: high; } > b { voice-range: x-high; } > > ------------------------------------------------------ > It is better to ask some of the questions than to know > all the answers. -- James Thurber > ------------------------------------------------------ > Gregory J. Rosmaita: gregory.rosmaita@gmail.com > Camera Obscura: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus > Oedipus' Online Complex: http://my.opera.com/oedipus > ------------------------------------------------------ >
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