- From: Alan Gresley <alan@css-class.com>
- Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 03:46:45 +1000
- To: Brad Kemper <brad.kemper@gmail.com>
- CC: Simon Fraser <smfr@me.com>, Maarten Billemont <lhunath@gmail.com>, www-style list <www-style@w3.org>
On 31/05/2011 1:52 AM, Brad Kemper wrote: > > On May 30, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Simon Fraser wrote: > >> On May 28, 2011, at 2:41 pm, Maarten Billemont wrote: >> >>> Consider the following test case: http://jsfiddle.net/An6vn/3/ >>> >>> Here, the point is to have a container of set size (eg. an image) >>> with a caption attached to the bottom of it. The caption would >>> have a single line that provides the name of the image, after >>> which a paragraph of description could follow. The case >>> demonstrates a style where only the first line is visible by >>> default and the rest appears on hover, by means of transitioning >>> from top:100%; margin-top:-1em; -> top:auto; bottom:0; >>> >>> Without transitioning, this works very well. Add CSS >>> transitioning and Chrome transitions the top to 0 (moving the >>> caption all the way to the top), after which the caption suddenly >>> appears on the very bottom (applying bottom:0). Firefox refuses >>> to transition to auto, at all. >>> >>> I would expect that each would determine the begin and end >>> y-position of the caption relative to its parent in each instance >>> and transition from one to the other. Unfortunately, this isn't >>> how it works. >> >> Neither Chrome (really WebKit) nor Firefox do the right thing when >> transitioning to/from 'auto' values. >> >> See the thread starting >> at<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2010Apr/0526.html> > >> > Is there any possibility for figuring out what the right thing is, > and getting that into the spec and implementations? Transitioning to > and from 'auto' for width, height, and the trbl positioning > properties is a gigantic use case. 'Auto' has got to be the most > common value for those properties, and transitioning from that to a > specific length is extremely useful. I would appreciate seeing use cases with width, height, etc with auto. What you have with auto offsets are just placeholders for any offsets that have a value that _are not auto_. Anyway, you would have to change the behavior of how offset now work. http://css-class.com/test/css/3/transitions/offset-auto-ltr.htm http://css-class.com/test/css/3/transitions/offset-auto-rtl.htm Note that Opera 11.11 does it all wrong since the absolutely positioned element (on the left with salmon background) stops the margin collapse of the first inflow element (div#move with "Hover Me"). To prove this, select margin-top: 200px. Considering that transitions can cause elements to move around when resizing the viewport or perhaps CJK horizontal text becoming vertical text on a mobile due to orientation and many more reasons I can list, I think we just leave auto offsets alone. -- Alan Gresley http://css-3d.org/ http://css-class.com/
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