- From: John Daggett <jdaggett@mozilla.com>
- Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:30:39 -0800 (PST)
- To: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp>
- Cc: Brad Kemper <brad.kemper@gmail.com>, MasaFuji <masa@fuji.email.ne.jp>, www-style list <www-style@w3.org>, Thomas Phinney <tphinney@cal.berkeley.edu>, Ambrose LI <ambrose.li@gmail.com>, www-font@w3.org
> > This is not entirely correct. While families that include a > > mixture of widths generally don't exist, newspapers in Japan > > often use a slightly expanded (i.e. non-square em-box) face > > such as the one below: > > > > Mainichi Mincho (Morisawa): > > http://www.morisawa.co.jp/font/fontlist/details/fontfamily038.html?s=87 > > The note section of the page mentions that: > > * This font is designed to be 1em square box. If you want to > use this font in the same visual as newspapers, please use the > font by scaling 80% vertically. > > You might see most visual magazines in Japan use condensed > fonts, but even in such professional design materials, the > situation is the same as above; designers usually use fonts by > scaling 80% to 90% to make condensed visuals. > > That says, the situation is a little different from the one in > English typography. Artificially condensed glyphs tend to be > considered professional enough in most cases or sometimes even > better than the original (at least from layout designer > perspective, I know all font designers hate this though). You're generalizing too far here, Morisawa has designed the font for a very specific *print* workflow, one that clearly involves rasterizer-level support for asymmetric scaling of font glyphs. This is precisely my original point, asymmetric scaling of glyphs won't yield quality results for screen rendering unless the font rasterizer is involved. I believe that's possible with CoreGraphics on OSX or FreeType on Linux but it's certainly not possible with GDI on Windows XP. In this vein, I should point out that it would be far more interesting to support some form of arbitrary font axes, such as Quickdraw GX variation axes or Adobe Multiple Master fonts. These formats allow a font designer to design specific parameterizations into the font data, similar to the way hinting data allows a font designer to add adjustments for display at specific resolutions. The Skia font that still ships with OSX supports 'weight' and 'width' axes, allowing a single font to support an arbitrary range of weights and widths. While this isn't currently widely supported technology and would require a new version of OpenType, it has a lot of size benefits for web use. With such a capability, an arbitrary axis such as 'contrast' could be supported for a family like Axis Mincho: http://www.typeproject.com/demo/axis_mincho.html Note how the glyphs vary by weight (vertical axis) and contrast (horizontal axis). Neat, eh? Far better to have something like this that can unleash the creativity of font designers rather than try and perform imaging acrobatics with fonts simply not designed for a given effect. Regards, John Daggett (Adding www-font to the cc: list)
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