- From: Håkon Wium Lie <howcome@opera.com>
- Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:43:19 +0100
- To: Sylvain Galineau <sylvaing@microsoft.com>
- Cc: Håkon Wium Lie <howcome@opera.com>, Stephen Zilles <szilles@adobe.com>, Brad Kemper <brad.kemper@gmail.com>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
Sylvain Galineau wrote: > [sylvaing] > > > Lines 16-24 is there to handle cases when 'column-width' is auto and > > 'column-count' is set. > > To be exact, the 24-25 branch handles the case where column-width is auto, > column-count is specified and the total size of column-gaps is larger than > the available width. So while I would agree this is generally not the kind > of constraint one aims at in a design (modulo the more creative and exotic > things people might do with multicols, as pointed out by Brad) it is a > fallback of the primary use-case. The primary use case is best handled by setting 'column-width' to a value other than auto. And then we will not get into this part of the code. > One that could be triggered by something as simple as the viewport > being resized to half its size by the window manager. As specified, > I think the current fallback pretty much forces the author to > define a media query to handle the result. Media queries is an option. But setting 'column-width' is easier. > >This will not be the most common case, and we > > shouldn't really encouage its use -- unless author really wants a specific > > number of columns. > > Experience indicates that 'encouragements' have limited influence on what > authors do in practice. Sure. But if they chose to set column-count and column-gap to specific values, perhaps they mean it? > >In this case, I do think we should "follow the > > principle of least surprise" and not try to make advanced adjustments > > which may or may not be what the user/author/designer wants. Brad's > > likening of 'padding' to 'column-gap' is a good one. > > It's hard to argue that this is both a fallback scenario - i.e. not the primary > use-case - *and* what the designer wants. In a few cases this will be what the designer wants. > > For this algorithm, we have three options that I can live with: > > > > 1) keep the current algorithm > > 2) revise line 24 (by adding 1) > > 3) always honor column-count > > > > After reading Brad's arguments, I'm leaning towards 3. > > I don't see how 3 is doable since this specific branch of the algorithm > deals with the case where there isn't enough room for the column gaps implied > by column-count i.e. the only way to make everything add up would be to make > the column-widths negative. 3) could be expressed as: if (column-width = auto) then N := column-count; W := max(0, (available-width - ((N - 1) * column-gap))/N); fi So, 'column-width' would work as 'width', and 'column-gap' would work as 'padding'. What's your preferred solution? -h&kon Håkon Wium Lie CTO °þe®ª howcome@opera.com http://people.opera.com/howcome
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