- From: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:38:09 -0700
- To: Brad Kemper <brad.kemper@gmail.com>
- Cc: Alex Mogilevsky <alexmog@microsoft.com>, Øyvind Stenhaug <oyvinds@opera.com>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Brad Kemper <brad.kemper@gmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 11, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Alex Mogilevsky <alexmog@microsoft.com> wrote: >>> As for "position:relative", in this hypothetical situation (of defining display and positioning properties as if they didn't exist yet) I would keep it separate, as it isn't really specifying a position, it is an offset from a position that is determined before it applies. >>> >>> Perhaps something like this would work better for relative positioning: >>> >>> position-offset: <length> <length>? >>> >>> (the two values are offsets for 'start' and 'before'; somewhat similar to http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-gcpm/#the-float-offset-property) >> >> I agree with François - position:relative was a way to do a >> purely-visual translation of an element before transforms existed. >> Now that they do exist, if we were doing it over again, we'd just use >> transform. > > Does 'translateZ' change an element's z-index? Does '‘transform-style: preserve-3d’ affect that? I couldn't really tell by reading the spec. Or are you saying that with 'translateZ' we wouldn't need z-index or need relative positioning to set it? No, z-index is separate. However, siblings can use translateZ to move in front of or behind each other, similar to the effect of z-index. 'preserve-3d' just affects how "local" an elements' Z position is. If an element is set to "flat", its children's Z position is local to the internal plane of the element; if the element is rotated in the Y or Z, you'll see the children stay within the element. With preserve-3d the Z position applies one level higher up the tree. If you rotate an element with a child with a positive Z position, you'll see the child visibly "in front" of the element. ~TJ
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