- From: Sylvain Galineau <sylvaing@microsoft.com>
- Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 22:43:58 +0000
- To: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
- CC: www-style list <www-style@w3.org>
[Bjoern Hoehrmann:] > > * Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > >On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Sylvain Galineau <sylvaing@microsoft.com> > wrote: > >> Always ? Really ? I don't recall seeing an ED with a lot of > >> substantive changes going straight to LC. (To be clear, I'm not > >> saying the process prevents you from doing it but it seems peculiar > >> given the nature of the changes and the controversy some of them have > >> generated). > > > >Can we please not have this discussion? My intention is to publish an > >LC draft. If that involves going through a WD first, whatever. > >That's irrelevant. The point is, I'm done with Images 3, and would > >like to cut it off and kick it further up the process chain. > > The best practise is to publish a normal working draft that you think > addresses all known issues, making sure those issues raised have been > formally addressed, and then ensure that draft is reviewed by group > members interested in implementing what's specified plus other groups that > may be interested, in the case here SVG (due to image-rendering), WAI (are > there accessibility issues with `element()`? the draft does not seem to > mention any) and HTML (is it well-defined how `element()` image data is > generated, for instance, do you render the options list of a select form > control if the user expands it?) would be obvious. > > Having records of people and groups noting they reviewed the document and > found no issues with it is best. > > It's common practise these days to publish a Last Call the moment the > draft looks vaguely feature-complete and then expect everybody to re- view > it. That tends to lead to unpredictable schedules, repeated Last Calls, > and annoyed reviewers who then review less, in my experience so I would > indeed recommend following the best practise. Procedurally you can do > whatever you want as there is no notable process enforcement. Thanks! Avoiding multiple LCs was my main concern; we've been through several breaking changes and some of them remain controversial, including in the latest ED (e.g. the linear-gradient keyword issue). Given the module's recent volatility and our experience implementing it I simply cannot exclude the possibility that we will find another set of new issues with the next draft, however stable Tab means it to be. A compromise here may also be a longer review period. > > (As an aside, the draft should include an example with sample render- ing > of using `element()` to reference an inline element that wraps in the > middle, and it should probably say something about elements that the > margin properties do not apply to.) > -- > Björn Höhrmann · mailto:bjoern@hoehrmann.de · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de > Am Badedeich 7 · Telefon: +49(0)160/4415681 · http://www.bjoernsworld.de > 25899 Dagebüll · PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 · http://www.websitedev.de/
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