- From: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:01:43 -0700
- To: Thomas Phinney <tphinney@cal.berkeley.edu>
- Cc: John Hudson <tiro@tiro.com>, Sergey Malkin <sergeym@microsoft.com>, John Daggett <jdaggett@mozilla.com>, Sylvain Galineau <sylvaing@microsoft.com>, www-style@w3.org, www-font <www-font@w3.org>
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Thomas Phinney <tphinney@cal.berkeley.edu> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:48 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com> > wrote: >> Basically, I'm not at all sympathetic to a typographer/font developer >> saying "I don't want my font used at all if it's used in a way I can't >> control the display of", which I believe is essentially the argument >> of the no-simulation camp. (Correct me if there is a more nuanced >> position I should be aware of.) > > Um, yeah, there is. "I don't care whose fonts they are; as a designer, I > don't want to see fake bolds and/or fake italics showing up by accident in > my work." This is a pretty darn common position among serious graphic > designers, which is why the behavior in Adobe applications is the way it is. > (It happens to be a position I share, but that's not the point.) > The fact that most web developers have not taken this position to date is > not unrelated to the fact that web developers have not had real control of > fonts. There are other factors, of course. I find it strange that "show a different font that has this variant" is acceptable/preferable to "simulate this variant in the font I specified", but shrug. It's definitely not a position that I hold, and I've been using @font-face in my work for several years. I'd strongly desire some way to say "please simulate variants I'm not explicitly specifying"; I don't particularly care whether this is the default or some extra option I have to specify in @font-face. (This could possibly be related to the floated idea of a @font-family rule for easy grouping of fonts....) ~TJ
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