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RE: Fw: RE: [css-flexbox] Summary of planned changes to Flexbox ?Module

From: Alex Mogilevsky <alexmog@microsoft.com>
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 03:32:50 +0000
To: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>, "robert@ocallahan.org" <robert@ocallahan.org>
CC: Adam Del Vecchio <adam.delvecchio@go-techo.com>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
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What is the purpose of (1a)? If author wanted "1fl" instead of "auto" they would have said so. Why make it a special case?

(3) is different from current spec in how it treats negative extra space. Is there evidence that current behavior is undesirable?

(4) should be unnecessary. If flex is allowed in padding (not that I agree it is a good idea), it should be clearly stated which set of flexes it belongs to. It should be either internal to Flexbox or external, not conditional.

It is not quite clear from the algorithm if it is moving from "additive" flex to "absolute". It looks like it is absolute. Is it?

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From: Tab Atkins Jr. [mailto:jackalmage@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:56 PM
To: robert@ocallahan.org
Cc: Alex Mogilevsky; Adam Del Vecchio; www-style@w3.org
Subject: Re: Fw: RE: [css-flexbox] Summary of planned changes to Flexbox Module

Well, turns out the algorithm for calculating flexes is remarkably easy.

All of this takes place during used-width calculation, after computed lengths have been computed.  This algorithm is written in terms of width, but can be used for either dimension with no change, since all width/height dependent calculations happen before flexes are computed, so we can be totally direction-agnostic in the algo.

0) Resolve all non-flexible lengths on the flexbox, and all non-auto, non-flexible lengths on the flexbox children.
   Note that flex units are allowed in the padding of flexboxes even if they are, themselves, in block flow or similar, rather than nested inside of another flexbox.  For the purpose of this step, a flex unit appearing in padding of the flexbox is treated as 0..
   (That is, given "<div display:block;><div display:flexbox;
padding:0 1fl;><span width=50%></span></div></div>", the inner div's padding is treated as 0 for the purpose of determining its width in the normal flow of its parent, and also for resolving the 50% width on the span.)
   (I need to go into somewhat more detail here, to specify what the min/max/fit-content width and height of a flexbox are.  It's a relatively simple calculation - "as normal, but treat all flex units as 0".)

1) Convert 'auto' widths and margins on flexbox children:
  a) If width is 'auto' and padding-left, padding-right, margin-left, and margin-right are all not 'auto' and not flexible, the width is treated as "1fl" for the purposes of this algorithm.
  b) Otherwise, if width is 'auto' it is treated as "fit-content", and padding/margin-left/right values that are 'auto' are treated as "1fl"
for the purposes of this algorithm.

2) Collapse margins on flexbox children, if that margin is collapsible (dependent on value of margin-collapse):
  a) Separate each margin into a flexible segment and an inflexible segment (many margins will have only one or the other - in that case, the missing segment is zero).
  b) The collapsed margin is then composed of 3 segments: an inflexible segment, a flexible segment, and a flexible segment with a minimum-size constraint:
    i) The inflexible segment is the minimum of the two inflexible segments
    ii) The flexible segment is the minimum of the two flexible segments
    iii) The flexible-with-constraint segment has flex equal to the difference of the two flexible segments, and a minimum-size constraint equal to the difference of the two inflexible segments

3) You now have a collection of flexible segments, some with minimum-size or maximum-size constraints (min-width and max-width specify constraints on the width's flexibility, if any), and a collection of inflexible segments (any non-flexing widths, paddings, margins, and borders).  The free space in the flexbox is equal to the width of the flexbox minus the length of all the inflexible segments and the minimum width of any flexible segments with a minimum-size constraint.  If the free space is negative, set all flexible segments to 0 length and exit this algorithm; the children will overflow the flexbox in the direction indicated by box-begin.

4) If the flexbox is in a flow that does not allow flex units, but it has flexible padding, distribute the free space among the flexbox's padding in proportion with the flexibility of padding-left/right.
Reduce the free space by the amount of flex the padding has assumed.
   (If the flexbox is in a flow that allows flex units, then flexible padding or any other flexible unit has already been resolved when doing the flex computations of its parent, and so this step is

5) Distribute flex among flexbox children:
  a) Divide the free space up among the flexible segments in proportion to their flexibility.
  b) If any minimum-size or maximum-size constraints are not satisfied, set that segment to the minimum size necessary to satisfy a minimum-size constraint, or the maximum size necessary to satisfy a maximum-size constraint, and set that segment's flexibility to 0.
Return to step (a).
  c) If all constraints are satisfied, the algorithm is finished.

This algorithm does involve iterating until the flexibility constraints are satisfied, but this should be acceptable.  The current Flexbox spec requires the exact same iteration, and further, this isn't iterative *layout*, since all the inflexible lengths the algorithm needs can be calculated before this is run, and the layout needs of grandchildren of flexboxes won't affect the variables that this algo cares about.

I suspect linear programming may lead to a faster calculation of flex distribution, but I don't know the subject well enough to say anything about that.

It's important to note where flex units are allowed here.  Children of flexboxes may use flex units in any of width/height/margin/padding.
Flexboxes themselves, if they are not in a flow that allows flex units, may still use flex units in their padding only.  (If they are in a flow that allows flex units, such as if they are themself the child of another flexbox, then they may of course use flexes for any of the dimensions allowed by that flow.)

Does anyone see any problems?  Any places where you think I've missed an important case?  Any particular area you'd like to see in more detail?


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