- From: Simon Fraser <smfr@me.com>
- Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 18:41:15 -0800
- To: Sylvain Galineau <sylvaing@microsoft.com>
- Cc: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>, Rik Cabanier <cabanier@adobe.com>, Leif Arne Storset <lstorset@opera.com>, Brad Kemper <brad.kemper@gmail.com>, www-style list <www-style@w3.org>
On Dec 7, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Sylvain Galineau wrote: >> From: Tab Atkins Jr. [mailto:jackalmage@gmail.com] > > >> Sorry, I didn't mean to single you out. You just seemed particularly >> interested in the ability, and I happened to be responding directly to >> you, so I asked for use-cases. > > I am but it's also quite possible that the use-case I see has nothing to do > with Simon's; I suspect his is visual and mine is much more general. I > assume giving authors the ability to style all images - whether 'foreground' > replaced elements or background images - is valuable. Today, I can set opacity > on an img element, give it a border, transform it etc. But if I want to rotate > an image and tile the result as a background then I do need to make a new image. > If it'd make authors' lives easier to bridge this discontinuity then > background-transform is progress but a very limited subset of what's possible. > > But this all also assumes that CSS styling can substitute for enough of the > adjustments authors typically do to their background images to be valuable > in day-to-day use. > > Even if not, I'm still uncomfortable with specializing transforms for backgrounds. > Use-cases would indeed be welcome so we understand why transforms - a fairly recent > feature - needs this but not opacity or other effects authors also apply to background > images in their favorite editors. If we decide that background-transform is valuable, then I think we'll have a very hard time rejecting background-opacity (which I believe we've done in the past). However, it's still not obvious to me that transforms to image applied via either @image rules or a functional syntax would affect the orientation of the background tiling grid, whereas background-transform would, I think. Simon
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