UTF8 vs UTF16

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Robert J Burns <rob@robburns.com> wrote:

> Again, you're making assumptions that simply don't hold water. For
> documents in languages where UTF-8 requires 3-octets per code point there
> can certainly be enough 1-octet Latin script markup to offset the 3-octets
> in the natural language element content (averaging out to the 2-octets per
> code point of UTF-16), but those would likely be rare documents.

> Any script beyond U+07FF will take more octets to encode as UTF-8 than
> UTF-16. Regardless, both need to be supported by implementations and the
> savings of using UTF-8 for some documents and UTF-16 for the others isn't
> worth the trouble. For example, for a Chinese website they probably can
> count on most of their documents being more efficient encoded as UTF-16 than
> UTF-8 and the rare exceptions aren't worth looking out for.

Sorry, this is a complete tangent, but I can't resist. At Mozilla we did
some measurements last year which showed that, in fact, UTF-8 was a huge
size win over UTF-16 for storing the DOM text of a set of "top 20" CJK front
pages. Some results are here:
The "nsTextFragment" results are measuring the size of character storage for
DOM text nodes. UTF-8 uses just over half the storage of UTF-16. (Dave
repeated the analysis on some CJK Wikipedia articles, just to check, and got
similar results.) "Current" is a scheme where a text node with all
characters in the range 0-255 is stored as one byte per character, and all
other text nodes are stored in UTF-16 --- UTF-8 beats that handily.

I assume that text sent over the wire would be similar to the DOM text,
although in fact unparsed text would be even more Latin-1 heavy than these
results show, since tag and attribute names are not stored using

One interesting observation is that scripts (ECMAScript, that is) are
skewing DOM text towards Latin-1.

We've seen no data showing that UTF-16 is useful in practice on the real Web
... except as a legacy encoding of course.

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