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Re: Acessibility of <audio> and <video>

From: Dave Singer <singer@apple.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:12:42 -0700
Message-Id: <p06240819c4ecb3224cb3@[]>
To: Leif Halvard Silli <lhs@malform.no>
Cc: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>, W3C Style List <www-style@w3.org>

I think simple things that you normally want should normally be right 
automatically.  It's not OK to have to choose to turn on captions 
manually for every damned piece of video embedded on every page.  It 
is OK for complex cases to have UI on the page to do the fine-grained 
control and explanation.

At 1:10  +0200 10/09/08, Leif Halvard Silli wrote:
>Dave Singer 2008-09-10 00.30:
>>At 11:17  +0300 4/09/08, Henri Sivonen wrote:
>>>On Sep 4, 2008, at 01:13, Dave Singer wrote:
>>>More to the point even, automatic mechanisms for language 
>>>selection are known to be *practically pointless* to engineer, 
>>>because we already know from HTTP Content-Negotiation that users 
>>>don't bother to configure it.
>>We've had some success with QuickTime and alternate language, on occasion.
>I wonder when it begins to be pointless?  Our cable TV set-top box 
>was delivered at the door being preprogrammed to prefer subtitling 
>in Norwegian. And that works. So it should be a success!
>Likewise, browsers nowaways - probably with the exception of Firefox 
>- tend to pick their preferred language setting from the OS. Which 
>works as well. So it should be a success? (Well, I have some 
>complaints about how Safari forces me to change the language 
>preference of my entire OS if I want to tell it to prefer a certain 
>language - but OK.)
>There is a problem when we go in to the finer granularty of things - 
>is that why it should be pointless? Users often do not regulate the 
>default language preference settings. And it also isn't particulary 
>easy to select language preferences in a web browser. (Why is it not 
>provided as a menu beside the Encoding selection preferences e.g.?) 
>Plus that browsers are choke full of cookies that override the 
>language prefernces anyhow. Etc.
>So I would not measure the success in the number of times users 
>change their language preferences.
>leif halvard silli

David Singer
Received on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 23:13:32 UTC

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