- From: Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk>
- Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 19:15:59 +0100
- To: www-style@w3.org
Spartanicus wrote: > "Patrick Lauke" <P.H.Lauke@salford.ac.uk> wrote: > >> So you're pointing at the current behaviour of browsers (which I'm arguing here as being flawed) to justify using a workaround? The <q> element unambiguously defines where the quote starts or ends. The browser should present this visually by adding quotes (or guillemets, or whatever depending on language-specific rules). When copy/pasting, this delimitation should also be passed along as part of the plain text. IMO, of course. > > As I stated before I consider the current HTML4 spec requirement for <q> > as a design flaw and I presented a scenario that allows authors to not > let that flaw affect the content they author today. This scenario allows > inline quotes to be machine identifiable, it results in quote characters > being copy'able, and it displays correctly in the current crop of > browsers. > > What is it that you are objecting to? You see it as a flaw in the spec, I see it as a flaw in current browser support. So that's what I'm objecting to...we're diametrically opposite on this one. >>> Can you present a use case where the distinction is relevant if the >>> ability to reference by marker is dealt with by including such >>> references as part of the content proper? >> I'm not talking about referencing by marker. I'm talking about denoting, in a copy/pasted bit of text, that something was an ordered list rather than an unordered one. > > And you get that (and more reliably) when as I suggest the markers are > included in the content proper. You could say the same about bulleted list items. Should the bullet be part of the actual content as well? Is it a flaw in current browsers that they try to at least put a "*" in front of bulleted list items when copy/pasting? P -- Patrick H. Lauke ______________________________________________________________ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ______________________________________________________________ Co-lead, Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ ______________________________________________________________ Take it to the streets ... join the WaSP Street Team http://streetteam.webstandards.org/ ______________________________________________________________
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