- From: Orion Adrian <orion.adrian@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:44:19 -0400
- To: www-style@w3.org
On 7/5/05, David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > > - the one technology problem - most authors want to think they are > > > writing a document in a single language, and are prepared to confuse > > > HTML, CSS and EcmaScript, but not server configuration directives; > > > > I don't quite follow what the point of that statement is. I'm not > > trying to be difficult, but what are you getting at? > > This is the same problem that means layering won't work. A large > proportion of web authors want to write HTML. By HTML they mean the file > that causes IE6 to produce the display they want, including scripting, > styles, etc. Currently server configuration, and therefore proper control > of things like caching are not done because they cannot be done in the > "HTML" file. How things are cached and managed is unimportant to the existance of such a feature to the web author. They need only know that it's turned on. > > I don't see where there is the need for configuration at all. It > > should be a zero-configure system. I don't have to configure my web > > server to respond to incoming requests. It should be part of the > > underlying algorithm. > > Servers aren't HTML servers, they are web resource servers. In some > cases it may be important that a specific format be served, and, like > with other negotiation types, there may be a need to quality > rank material. Actually most that I've seen are in fact fairly complex. They often handle server script (PHP, ASP, CGI), they handle page instructions (e.g. no-cache), whether we wanted them to or not. They also handle incoming requests for resources by rerouting or denying access. They can, and do sometimes, do this too. > > I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing anymore. I'm talking > > about the fallback mechanism as it relates to alternative media types. > > I'm a firm believer in alt text. > > Images are most often used as an alternative media type for HTML > text. XHTML 2.0 treats the provision of alternative text as a > fallback from the replacement image to the original text, or from > a non-directly replaceable image to a text near equivalent. I'm sure that's exactly what the web authors had in mind with spacer.gif . The truth I think is that visual designers think in pictures and when asked why all there <p> elements are empty except for a src attribute, they're going to say, "that's how you do images now." The irony will be bittersweet. I'll be right and won't want to be. Orion Adrian
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