- From: Orion Adrian <orion.adrian@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:54:26 -0400
- To: www-style@w3.org
Before I release the new proposal that incorperates the layout/formatting split, I thought I organize all the reasons behind the split that have been made accross dozens of posts in many different threads. 1) Formatting degrades gracefully; layout doesn't. Looking at some of the properties that degrade gracefully: font (mostly), background (mostly), margin, padding, border and the properties that don't: left, right, top, bottom, width, height, z-index, display If a font isn't applied or a margin isn't exact, you're probably ok (assuming no layout properties). If any of the layout properties fail, you're probably in trouble. 2) Layout works by specifying unique zones in space and then assigning roles. Formatting works by applying itself to non-unique semantic classes. A good example of this is the title tag. The UA specifies spaces and where roles go (in this case the title). The title does not specify where it goes, but the layout specifies where the data with the role of title goes. Formatting, however, does specify semantic classes and then provides basic formatting for them. Float is a complication I will get to later. 3) Consistent layout aids in the ability to find things due to spacial orientation. While it would be good if all layout and formatting decisions were made on the client and not by the author, layout is very important. Moving types of information and navigation to different locations than standard has shown to have a very negative effect on the user's ability to work with the object in question. There is also the matter of the needs of the UA. Given that the UA knows what it needs better than the author of the stylesheet and that there are many fewer devices than sites to be styled, it would seem a better use of manpower to move layout and formatting to the device. 4) Layout reuse requries decoupling from content. Layouts are often designed with particular content in mind. However, layout reuse is important so that users can come to trust the applications they are using. If something changes locations (like navigation) consumers of the layout will become confused and become more distrustful of the their knowledge of the layout. Formatting changes are more of an annoyance, but still important for user satisfaction. The other downside of author-based layout is that it force the application to ingore layout conventions of the platform since it would not be practical to do so. 5) Formatting and layout coupling promote UI and content coupling. The reverse could also be said. Coupled UI and content complicate user interaction. It also promotes a single space for both despite their differening needs like 6) UI needs to be visible at all times, currently active content only needs to be visible. Usabilities studies performed by the Nielson-Norman group show that users don't scroll for UI navigation. They do scroll for content. UI chould be visible at all times, content should only show the active section (showing only the active section improves the user's ability to find their parsing location (i.e. where they were reading in the text). 7) Layout can pull from multiple sources, content usually doesn't. A layout can pull from many data sources to produce it's view. One section of layout may be stock quotes while another may be navigation while another may be a content stream. Content sources are usually singular. They are taken as a whole and presented. 8) Formatting and layout design use different mental models. Layout design uses the spacial orientation part of the brain while formatting chioces look the readability and attractiveness of the text, something that can't be processed until actually looking at the text in question. Some of these points might be disputted and some have been, but for me the form the core of my belief structure as to why there needs to be a split. The layout language is forthcoming shortly. Orion Adrian
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