- From: Emrah BASKAYA <emrahbaskaya@hesido.com>
- Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:44:28 +0300
- To: "David Woolley" <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>, www-style@w3.org
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:48:03 +0100 (BST), David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >> div { >> background-color: #fff; /* white bg in div */ >> } >> >> h2 { >> color: $fff; /* white text in header */ >> background-image: url(cool.png); /* a dark yet transparent image */ >> background-standin-color: #000 ; /*the bg will be black till image > > This doesn't degrade gracefully. If you set a foreground colour, you > must set a background colour that contrasts, and you must do using the > same generation of CSS attributes as used to set the foreground colour. After the shift to CSS based on supported-properties which might indeed solve the degrade problems but get rejected for some reason, and thinking some of us would really really like this standin-colour thing when working with transparent BG images (just because we care about accessibility), and bearing in mind David Woolley's comments on degradation and accessibility for old generations, I change this proposal just a little bit. When background-standin-color property is understood by the user agent, the background-color property will be set to "transparent". When the image is succesfully loaded, the color used in background will be set to transparent so we can see out alpha BG in its full glory. Here's the example: -- div { background-color: #fff; /* white bg in div */ } h2 { color: $fff; /* white text in header */ background-image: url(cool.png); /* a dark yet transparent image */ background-color: #000; /* bg color for old browsers, we can keep our accessible for old browsers, even though our alpha bg image will look awful */ background-standin-color: #000 ; /* user agent who understands this line will override background-color -as if it is set to transparent-. It will keep background color as #000 until the bg-image is fully loaded. */ -- And no, it is not hard to check if the image is fully loaded. This way, for authors who care about accessibility, the problem is solved, even if it would not look ultra-nice on older browsers. If the author would prefer his page to look nice even for older-browsers, he may omit background-color and use just background-standin-color, keeping it accessible for new generations only when images are not loaded. -- Emrah BASKAYA www.hesido.com
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