- From: John Lewis <lewi0371@mrs.umn.edu>
- Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 20:51:47 -0500
- To: www-style@w3.org
Ian wrote on Monday, April 28, 2003 at 12:58:03 PM: >> Usually there are "good" and "bad" places to break a short sequence >> of words, like a title or a heading --- as a page designer, I'd >> like to be able to specify what sets of breaks are preferred. > That's something to bring up with the UNICODE consortium, I'd say. > What you are basically asking for is for codepoints that represent > the order of breaking points on a line, much like U+00AD SOFT HYPHEN > does with word hyphenation. This (and other content-specific > effects) are probably out of scope of CSS, IMHO. Most of the effect could be acheived in CSS, without the need to sprinkle a document with extra characters. All you would need is a new property (I think line-break is free, but perhaps not optimal) that takes at least two values, normal and smooth (or similar). The property wouldn't affect the width or height, just how the browser chooses to break lines within those constraints. Normal browser line break example: Then came the horses. Having four feet, these managed rather better than the foot-soldiers: but even they stumbled now and then; and it seemed to be a regular rule that, whenever a horse stumbled the rider fell off instantly. The confusion got worse every moment, and Alice was very glad to get out of the wood into an open place, where she found the White King seated on the ground, busily writing in his memorandum-book. It's possible to minimize the differences between lines (e.g., until the minimum and maximum line length are as close in length as possible; or similar). This is done only by moving words to the next line, not by using common justification methods (although now that I think about it, applying something like this before justification could be interesting, if not useful). The number of lines must not increase. Smooth line break example: Then came the horses. Having four feet, these managed rather better than the foot-soldiers: but even they stumbled now and then; and it seemed to be a regular rule that, whenever a horse stumbled the rider fell off instantly. The confusion got worse every moment, and Alice was very glad to get out of the wood into an open place, where she found the White King seated on the ground, busily writing in his memorandum-book. Note: I did this by hand, so it probably isn't perfect. The difference is slight with a paragraph (19 to 4). On the other hand, it makes such a nice difference in headings that it would probably become UA default. Normal line break example: George Bush dons baseball cap, invites Chirac to a friendly game of baseball Smooth line break example, in steps: Step 1 George Bush dons baseball cap, invites Chirac to a friendly game of baseball Step 2 George Bush dons baseball cap, invites Chirac to a friendly game of baseball Step 3 George Bush dons baseball cap, invites Chirac to a friendly game of baseball Step 4 George Bush dons baseball cap, invites Chirac to a friendly game of baseball Step 5 George Bush dons baseball cap, invites Chirac to a friendly game of baseball Step 6 is thrown out because doing so would increase the difference. I'm not a programmer, but the above looks trivial compared to most of CSS2. It doesn't seem much more complicated than normal text flow. One limitation of using CSS is this manner is that you can't guarantee good line breaks. For example: North Korea nukes all of Japan in controversial video game To avoid line breaks like that you'd need to change the content, so CSS can't help. There are problems with long words, especially in short lines; the smoothing has little to no effect. I'm okay with that. -- John Lewis
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