- From: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>
- Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:04:27 +0200
- To: "Peter S. Linss" <peter@linss.com>
- Cc: Chris Wilson <cwilso@microsoft.com>, www-style@w3.org
* Peter S. Linss wrote: >> And, in fact, it's somewhat contradictory, because CSS already claims to >> know what a "word" is, at least in some contexts - due to the >> 'word-spacing' property. :^) > >Yes, it's an issue that can't simply be ignored for lack of a universal >definition. Words exist in many languages used on the web, we should be able >to style them. > >> That said, ":first-word" would be a one-off. I'd be much more >> interested in a ":first-n-words" and ":first-n-letters". That should be ::first-words(n) and ::first-letters(n) otherwise it would be hard to read. I must say, I don't really like this pollution with selectors. Hm, there are a lot of selectors selecting 'first', 'last' and 'nth' and especially 'child', i.e. [1] E:first-child E:last-child E:only-child E:nth-child(expr) E:nth-last-child(expr) E:nth-last-of-type(expr) E:nth-of-type(expr) E:first-of-type E:last-of-type So we have 6 methods (remember the child combinator) to select distinct kinds of children of an element. Is this really necessary? I could live with e:child(first) e:child(last) e:child(only) e:child(even) e:child(odd) e:child(4n+4) or ... e:children(even) e:children(odd) e:children(4n+4) if readability is an important issue. I don't know if it is possible to express nth-last-child with this nn+/-x-Syntax but I can live without that selector :) :first-child could be marked deprecated and kept for compatibility reasons. Another approach would be to express the nth-thing in another way to have a generic mechanism to select nth-words, nth-lines, nth-children, nth-etceteras... I have to think about that... I think it's really important to have a small number of selectors; other modules like 'User Interface for CSS3' add even more selectors like ::menu. Common CSS authors already have problems to make use of all the selectors in CSS Level 2 (even with user agent support) and I fear most selectors won't be used by the majority and I fear that again leads to implementation problems in Microsofts Internet Explorer for Windows... [1] the current drafts lists this as 'E:nth-child(n)' etc. in section 2, 'expr' is much more appropriate >Agreed. Also first-n-lines. What does elem:not(elem::first-line)::first-line { } select? Do typographic pseudo-classes and -elements apply to concat'ed element content or to the context of the current selection? -- Björn Höhrmann { mailto:bjoern@hoehrmann.de } http://www.bjoernsworld.de am Badedeich 7 } Telefon: +49(0)4667/981028 { http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de 25899 Dagebüll { PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 } http://www.learn.to/quote/
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