- From: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:50:05 +0100
- To: Todd Fahrner <fahrner@pobox.com>
- CC: www-style@w3.org
Todd Fahrner wrote: > The current default of 12pt rasterizes very differently across platforms. > On Macs, it rasterizes into 12px (logical res fixed at 72ppi). Which is dumb because you can use a good 17inch monitor at 1600by1200 to get high quality digital soft-proofing of images for magazine work (for example) which gives around 150 dpi. On a Mac. > On Wintel > PCs, it rasterizes by default into 16px (logical res defaults to 96ppi). I > am unfamiliar with X11 default behavior(s). The X server exposes the width and height of the display (in millimeters) and the height and width (in pixels) and thus the resolution, which is not fixed at 72dpi. > The appropriate corrective measure, I submit, is for Mac (and X11?) > browsers to break with tradition and ship with the default value of > "medium" text set at 16px, instead of 12pt. That will be much easier to do once browsers really do use a CSS stylesheet as their browser default stylesheet, and once the hard-coded presentational hacks go away. > 2. The 1996 CSS1 standard suggests a 1/90" value for a "reference pixel", > extrapolated from a visual angle of 0.0227 degrees visual angle at arms > length. UAs are expected to scale pixels appropriately if the physical > resolution is known to vary significantly from this value. A 1/90" > reference pixel would suggest a rasterization of 12pt into 15px, rather > than 16. 15 is of course much closer to 16 than to 12, however. Because no > OS/UA currently assumes a 90ppi logical resolution, Actually, yes. In fact, if you do an xdpyinfo command (which gets the dots-per-inch of the current X display on Hakon's Sun workstation, guess what value you get? >(nor implements > pixel-scaling per CSS1), Most printers implement it, because (in a world of inexpensive 720 dpi inkjets) the consequences of not doing so are not acceptable to even the most accepting of Web users. > I think the reference pixel value should be > amended to 1/96". It's simple to preserve the suggested 0.0227 degrees > visual angle by giving the reference user a longer arm's length. (^: Ah yes, the foot was originally the length of which English monarchs foot? I guess if you twisted Hakons arm it would serve two purposes: a) make him tend to agree, and b) lengthen his arm in case he did not agree. As to your suggested change in the Mac browsers default stylesheets, well I will let the design teams of the Mac CSS-implementing briwsers speak about that themselves. -- Chris
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