- From: Jon Bosak <bosak@atlantic-83.Eng.Sun.COM>
- Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:15:28 -0800
- To: www-style@w3.org
Following is the digest for the first day of traffic on the new mailing list for people interested in DSSSL (ISO/IEC 10179), the international standard programming language for stylesheets and other processing specifications. DSSSL will become increasingly important as XML brings extensible markup onto the Web. Anyone interested in following DSSSL developments should monitor the archive: http://www.mulberrytech.com/dsssl/dssslist/archive Jon ======================================================================== The DSSSList Digest Wednesday, March 26 1997 Volume 01 : Number 001 In this issue: Welcome to DSSSList@mulberrytech.com [none] Processing external data entities DSSSL Tutorials and Samples Re: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples Re: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples Re: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples Re: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples Re: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples Re: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples Re: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples Re: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:18:57 -0500 From: Tony Graham <tgraham@mulberrytech.com> Subject: Welcome to DSSSList@mulberrytech.com Welcome to DSSSList@mulberrytech.com, the DSSSL users' mailing list. DSSSList is provided as a forum where users of DSSSL -- Document Style and Semantics Specification Language -- can exchange ideas and solutions. The DSSSL standard is comparatively new, DSSSL implementations are even newer, DSSSL embodies many concepts that are new to many people, and as yet there is no great body of reference implementations or reference books for people using DSSSL. The DSSSList is provided as a means to bootstrap DSSSL usage -- people using DSSSL helping other people using DSSSL so new users can avoid common pitfalls and we can increase the spread of DSSSL knowledge rather than have every user learn everything in isolation. DSSSList is provided by Mulberry Technologies as a service to the DSSSL user community. It was started because we felt the need for a forum such as this when we were writing our first stylesheet. Since there was no place to turn to for help, we decided to create one. It's as simple as that. Only subscribers can post to DSSSList, but since the goal is to increase the level of DSSSL knowledge, DSSSList is being archived on Mulberry's web site for everybody to view. The topics being discussed on the DSSSList will change as new ideas arise or existing problems are dealt with, but the archive will contain all of the ideas and solutions that have been discussed on the list. UNSUBSCRIBING ============= To unsubscribe from the list send mail to majordomo@mulberrytech.com with "unsubscribe dssslist" as the body of your message. DAILY DIGEST ============ Daily digests -- compilations of a whole days DSSSList messages sent as one e-mail message -- are also available. To unsubscribe from the list and subscribe to the digest send mail to majordomo@mulberrytech.com with the following two lines as the body of your message: unsubscribe dssslist subscribe dssslist-digest ARCHIVE ======= DSSSList messages are archived at http://www.mulberrytech.com/dsssl/dssslist/archive. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:34:27 -0500 From: Tony Graham <tgraham@mulberrytech.com> Subject: [none] >From dssslist-owner Tue Mar 25 16:13:08 1997 Received: from mail1.ability.net (root@web2.ability.net [207.240.60.2]) by web1.ability.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA16261 for <dssslist@web1.ability.net>; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from venus.Sun.COM (venus.Sun.COM [192.9.25.5]) by mail1.ability.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA23233 for <dssslist@mulberrytech.com>; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.25]) by venus.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id NAA07887 for <dssslist@mulberrytech.com>; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:14:47 -0800 Received: from jurassic.eng.sun.com by Eng.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id NAA16813; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:14:45 -0800 Received: from boethius.eng.sun.com by jurassic.eng.sun.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA00890; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:14:44 -0800 Received: by boethius.eng.sun.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA18424; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:14:37 -0800 Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:14:37 -0800 From: bosak@atlantic-83.Eng.Sun.COM (Jon Bosak) Message-Id: <199703252114.NAA18424@boethius.eng.sun.com> To: dssslist@mulberrytech.com Subject: Thanks for the list! Many thanks to Tony Graham and the folks at Mulberry Technologies for setting up this list. Jon - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Bosak, Online Information Technology Architect, Sun Microsystems - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 2550 Garcia Ave., MPK17-101, Mountain View, California 94043 Davenport Group::SGML Open::NCITS V1::ISO/IEC JTC1/SC18/WG8::W3C XML If a man look sharply and attentively, he shall see Fortune; for though she be blind, yet she is not invisible. -- Francis Bacon - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:36:17 -0500 From: David Megginson <dmeggins@uottawa.ca> Subject: Processing external data entities Hi, everyone. I have a quick question/thought about the Style Language. Without the QUERY feature (i.e. in Jade), is there any way to deal with an external data entity that is not specified as an attribute value on an element? Consider the following declarations: <!NOTATION source PUBLIC "-//megginson//NOTATION Source Code//EN"> <!ENTITY code PUBLIC "-//megginson//NONSGML Program Listing 1//EN" NDATA source> In the style language, it is easy to handle <listing source=code> using (element LISTING ...) but, as far as I can tell, there is no way to get at the entity's contents in the following: <listing> &code; </listing> Am I missing something? All comments and suggestions are welcome. David - -- David Megginson ak117@freenet.carleton.ca Microstar Software Ltd. dmeggins@microstar.com University of Ottawa dmeggins@uottawa.ca http://www.uottawa.ca/~dmeggins ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:19:38 -0500 From: "B. Tommie Usdin" <btusdin@mulberrytech.com> Subject: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples DSSSLers -- I'm looking for materials to help teach the basics of DSSSL. What tutorials, explanations, and/or samples are publically available? Thanks for the help. - -- Tommie ====================================================================== B. Tommie Usdin Phone: 301/231-6934 Mulberry Technologies, Inc. Fax: 301/231-6935 6010 Executive Blvd., Suite 608 E-mail: btusdin@mulberrytech.com Rockville, MD 20852 WWW: http://www.mulberrytech.com ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:28:19 +0100 (MET) From: Ingo Macherius <Ingo.Macherius@tu-clausthal.de> Subject: Re: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples > I'm looking for materials to help teach the basics of DSSSL. What > tutorials, explanations, and/or samples are publically available? http://itrc.uwaterloo.ca/~papresco/dsssl/tutorial.html http://www.sil.org/sgml/dssslGerman.html http://www.jclark.com/dsssl/ These may be a good startting point. ++im - -- Snail : Ingo Macherius // L'Aigler Platz 4 // D-38678 Clausthal-Zellerfeld Mail : Ingo.Macherius@tu-clausthal.de WWW: http://www.tu-clausthal.de/~inim/ Information!=Knowledge!=Wisdom!=Truth!=Beauty!=Love!=Music==BEST (Frank Zappa) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 97 15:41:40 GMT From: "Henry S. Thompson" <ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Subject: Re: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples Paul Prescod's online tutorial is pretty good: http://itrc.uwaterloo.ca:80/~papresco/dsssl/tutorial.html It's not obvious what the copyright status of it is. ht ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:50:12 GMT From: Sebastian Rahtz <s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Subject: Re: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples Ingo Macherius writes: > > I'm looking for materials to help teach the basics of DSSSL. What > > tutorials, explanations, and/or samples are publically available? I could badly do with some worked examples of math in DSSSL. I am trying to complete the TeX macro portion of the Jade TeX backend that handles math, and it doesn't help when I have to work out the DSSSL code first :-} Is anyone else looking at DSSSL math? Sebastian Rahtz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:07:07 -0500 From: Paul Prescod <papresco@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> Subject: Re: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples B. Tommie Usdin wrote: > > DSSSLers -- > > I'm looking for materials to help teach the basics of DSSSL. What > tutorials, explanations, and/or samples are publically available? > > Thanks for the help. The best thing to do to stay on top of DSSSL publications is to watch Robin Cover's SGML Web page: http://www.sil.org . She has a pointer to my web page that others have pointed you to. The copyright status is: "Please read and comment. Please contact me for anything else." Paul Prescod ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:07:45 -0500 From: Paul Prescod <papresco@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> Subject: Re: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > I could badly do with some worked examples of math in DSSSL. I am > trying to complete the TeX macro portion of the Jade TeX backend that > handles math, and it doesn't help when I have to work out the DSSSL > code first :-} > > Is anyone else looking at DSSSL math? I don't believe Jade supports math, so there would be no way to test your math code. Paul Prescod ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:16:13 GMT From: Sebastian Rahtz <s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Subject: Re: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples > > Is anyone else looking at DSSSL math? > > I don't believe Jade supports math, so there would be no way to test > your math code. > The next release of Jade will have the math stuff in it, I hope. I am working with a pre-release from James which has it (TeX only, not RTF yet so far as I know) Sebastian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:21:00 -0500 From: David Megginson <dmeggins@uottawa.ca> Subject: Re: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples Paul Prescod writes: > I don't believe Jade supports math, so there would be no way to test > your math code. Sebastian and I are working together with James on the TeX backend -- I am doing the C++ coding and Sebastian is doing the TeX. James has modified Jade to support math, but he has not implemented it in his RTF backend yet. David - -- David Megginson ak117@freenet.carleton.ca Microstar Software Ltd. dmeggins@microstar.com University of Ottawa dmeggins@uottawa.ca http://www.uottawa.ca/~dmeggins ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:30:51 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Prescod <papresco@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> Subject: Re: DSSSL Tutorials and Samples > > Paul Prescod writes: > > > I don't believe Jade supports math, so there would be no way to test > > your math code. > > Sebastian and I are working together with James on the TeX backend -- > I am doing the C++ coding and Sebastian is doing the TeX. James has > modified Jade to support math, but he has not implemented it in his > RTF backend yet. Cool. Probably the most reasonable thing to do for RTF and HTML would be to pipe formuale through TeX. If James wanted to try native support I wouldn't complain but it seems more trouble than it is worth. Paul Prescod ------------------------------ End of The DSSSList Digest V1 #1 ********************************
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