- From: Martin Gleeson <gleeson@unimelb.edu.au>
- Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:49:27 +1000
- To: Matthew James Marnell <marnellm@portia.portia.com>
- Cc: "'www-style@w3.org'" <www-style@w3.org>, "'html-erb@w3.org'" <html-erb@w3.org>, "'www-html@w3.org'" <www-html@w3.org>
>:>I want to be the first to let the world know what wonderous new things >:>Netscape has done for us this week. They just posted the release notes >:>for beta5 of Navigator 3.0 which includes *HTML* elements for >:>multi-column layout and whitespace. This of course contradicts their >:>stated commitment to working on style sheets. It is a surprise to those >:>of us working in the W3C HTML working group who have assumed all along >:>that the reason Netscape is there is to cooperate in the development of >:>standards. > >I'm sorry Thomas, I just can't quite understand what your complaint is. >You know Netscape has done this in the past. You know they've lied about >why they did it. So they claimed that they would support standards. >How many times have they done that in the past? So what did you expect, >that they'd play nice now? You thought they'd throw off their sheep's >clothing, and underneath there'd be a sheep? > >After looking at their track record, you really expected a turn-around. >That's just plain gullible. But at least they got the W3C to swallow >it long enough to stall everyone out. I think perhaps you're being a little harsh on Thomas. Given the obvious concessions Netscape were accorded in Wilbur, I honestly thought that they might have shown a little more respect for the standards process. You're quite correct about their track record, of course, but I guess it's just human nature to be optomistic and hope that they would have a change of heart. And I'm pleasantly surprised to see Microsoft setting an example - they too started off down the path of 'HTML extensions', but now seem to be fully supporting the standards process. Maybe Microsoft see what Netscape don't - if you make use of the standards process, you'll get things right, and not have to fix them later. If Microsoft can have a change of heart like this, anyone can. Netscape is still making stupid mistakes by rushing half-baked ideas (see Frames) into release software, and I use the term 'release' _very_ lightly, and having fix their mistakes later (or leave them unfixed - see CENTER, FONT). Of course, it is a given that Netscape are trying to chase HTML into a proprietary dead-end to further their own financial ends. I really hope Microsoft continues to follow the standards process and gives us a good, cross-platform browser that implements things like CSS, and knocks Netscape on its head. Coming from a previously strident MS-basher, that's saying something! Cheers, Marty. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Gleeson Webmeister | http://www.unimelb.edu.au/%7Egleeson/ Information Technology Services | Email : gleeson@unimelb.edu.au The University of Melbourne, Oz. | Opinions : Mine, all mine. "I hate quotations." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson, Journals (1843) -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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