- From: Stephanos Piperoglou <stephanos@hol.gr>
- Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:21:11 +0300 (EET DST)
- To: Douglas Rand <drand@sgi.com>
- cc: Ka-Ping Yee <kpyee@aw.sgi.com>, www-style@w3.org
On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Douglas Rand wrote: > I'd like to say quite the opposite. The usage of images is not a whim > of the document designer. It isn't really equivalent to put text in > place of an image either. And it isn't "stylistic" to me. > > I agree that there is far too much presentation stuff in HTML, but the > IMG tag isn't a particularly guilty member. Images are content, they > are not presentation. Images are not directly replacable by text when > they are used for navigation, nor does all the information in the image > get conveyed when the alternative text is put in place of the image. > > Think of the alternative text as more of a hack to get around poor > bandwidth of connections, or the lack of richness in a user agent which > is rendering to a text terminal. Being in greece, I know well enough what low bandwidth means. For my service, even when I'm at the office (I work at an ISP) getting more than 1 K/sec on a remote (i.e. outside the ISP's network) connection is considered incredibly good fortune. Ideally, a viewer with low bandwidth should be able to get *all* the information provided by a web page while saving file size by ignoring all of the presentational elements in the document. Someone browsing with images ON but stylesheets OFF if my proposal is implemented will get exactly that. A non-fancy document where the navigatior toolbar will read "Previous Next Home Mail" instead of pictures of two arrows, an envelope and a house while he will get any images that are pertinent to the content of the page, e.g. a diagram or a picture of a described object. Thus he will automatically have a high content/bytecount ratio without limiting himself to textual data. Not implementing the proposal will mean leaving decidedly presentational markup (i.e. images alternate to text) in the HTML to be loaded by default. Most of this can be made using a <SPAN ID="xxx"></SPAN> syntax where the stylesheet will refer the user agent to the correct image to replace the text. = Stephanos Piperoglou = stephanos@hol.gr = http://users.hol.gr/~stephanos/ = Four lines in a .sig can't say enough about why you should visit my page! "I want peace on earth and good will toward man" "We're the United States Government, we don't do that sort of thing!" [ from the film "Sneakers" ] ...oof porothika! (tm)
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