Re: RDB2RDF Implementation Report

On 22 Jun 2012, at 15:40, Ivan Herman wrote:
> As you can easily imagine, the issue is manpower. We, in the W3C team, simply have no manpower available to actively maintain the RDF validator.

Put a big badge on it saying, “SEEKING CONTRIBUTORS/SPONSORS”.

> The validator has been updated since 2006, actually (it now uses the latest version of Jena as a response to some security issue);

Ok, good.

> but nobody really maintains the code itself. Instead, the validator code has been put onto github:
> 
> https://github.com/w3c/rdfvalidator-ng
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> meaning that anybody can download and use the validator locally

That's great, actually.

This should really be mentioned here:
http://www.w3.org/RDF/Validator/documentation

That page points people in wrong directions and makes the whole project look a lot worse than it actually is.

Sticking the documentation page into the GitHub repository would be a good step towards that.

> and, *of course*, we would love and would incorporate patches to be deployed at the W3C site.

I fear that the specific issue mentioned by Kingsley is an issue with W3C's networking, and not a bug in the code. See my report here:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2012Apr/0002.html

Best,
Richard



> But, I am afraid, that is where we are today...
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Ivan
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> On Jun 22, 2012, at 16:13 , Richard Cyganiak wrote:
> 
>> Ivan,
>> 
>> On 22 Jun 2012, at 14:39, Ivan Herman wrote:
>>> www-rdf-validator@w3.org
>>> 
>>> The page gives a problem report form... 
>> 
>> The last time someone from W3C has responded to something reported on this address was in 2009.
>> 
>> The last time the validator code has been touched was apparently in 2006.
>> 
>> People report the same problems with the validator over and over again, to the sound of crickets chirping. A few sightings of the very problem that Kingsley just mentioned:
>> 
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2012Apr/0002.html
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2012Apr/0000.html
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2011Feb/0000.html
>> 
>> Best,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Ivan
>>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2012, at 15:23 , Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Who deals with issues such as:
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/RDF/Validator/ARPServlet?URI=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fns%2Fearl.rdf&PARSE=Parse+URI%3A+&TRIPLES_AND_GRAPH=PRINT_TRIPLES&FORMAT=PNG_EMBED
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was hoping to load these testsuite results into a quad store and then explore the linked data graphs etc..
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Good question. I was unable [1] to figure who's responsible for this space but hope Ivan can help us?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 	   Michael
>>>> 
>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/ns/,tools
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow
>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>>> Ireland, Europe
>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730
>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i
>>>> 
>>>> On 22 Jun 2012, at 14:12, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/22/12 8:58 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>>>> Boris,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks a lot for fixing the table. As an aside: I think it would be fair to change the order of editorship - you're the main person and have done the majority of the work, I'm just helping out ;)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 	   Michael
>>>>> 
>>>>> All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Who deals with issues such as:
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/RDF/Validator/ARPServlet?URI=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fns%2Fearl.rdf&PARSE=Parse+URI%3A+&TRIPLES_AND_GRAPH=PRINT_TRIPLES&FORMAT=PNG_EMBED
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was hoping to load these testsuite results into a quad store and then explore the linked data graphs etc..
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kingsley
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow
>>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>>>>> Ireland, Europe
>>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730
>>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 22 Jun 2012, at 13:55, Boris Villazon-Terrazas wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Michael,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Boris,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I've created the first version of the implementation report [1].
>>>>>>>> That's awesome, thanks a million! Just a minor thing: can you please fix the 'Home' column of  Table 1 and Table 2 so that they point to the right impl as per http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations …?
>>>>>>> Done.
>>>>>>>>> Regarding the EARL reports, so far I made an initial checking of the following
>>>>>>>>> - d2rq-dm 					ok
>>>>>>>>> - ultrawrap-postgress r2rml	ok
>>>>>>>>> - ultrawrap-postgress dm 		ok
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cool. Can you already generate the impl vs. TC Table 3. out of the EARL reports?
>>>>>>> Not yet ….
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Boris
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> 	   Michael
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow
>>>>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>>>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>>>>>>> Ireland, Europe
>>>>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730
>>>>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 22 Jun 2012, at 11:19, Boris Villazon-Terrazas wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I've created the first version of the implementation report [1].
>>>>>>>>> Regarding the EARL reports, so far I made an initial checking of the following
>>>>>>>>> - d2rq-dm 					ok
>>>>>>>>> - ultrawrap-postgress r2rml	ok
>>>>>>>>> - ultrawrap-postgress dm 		ok
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Boris
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/implementation-report/
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> By Friday night I'll send you an email reporting the things I've done.
>>>>>>>>>> Excellent, thanks! Can you please prioritise the first two things (draft IR and EARL reports validity) so that we have this maybe a bit earlier, and then focus on the Morph EARL report?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> 	   Michael
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow
>>>>>>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>>>>>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>>>>>>>>> Ireland, Europe
>>>>>>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730
>>>>>>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 20 Jun 2012, at 09:19, Boris Villazon-Terrazas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael, all
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Michael Hausenblas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Boris,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> In today's telecon we have discussed the next steps towards PR. One essential document is the Implementation Report. Can you please, based on the table [1], check if we can use the provided EARL reports to generate the HTML table which would have the implementations as column headings and the TC as row headings - see for example [2] how this could look like (where you can ignore everything else besides section 3. for now). Independent of if the EARL reports are useable, can I please ask you to draft the IR at [3] (you can simply reuse the content from [2] and remove non-relevant bits)?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> By this Friday 22 June we should report back to the WG re our progress (and expect the three remaining EARL reports from yourself, Richard and Eric to be integrated).
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I'll
>>>>>>>>>>> - draft IR at [3]
>>>>>>>>>>> - check the EARL reports
>>>>>>>>>>> - try to have a first version of morph EARL report
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> By Friday night I'll send you an email reporting the things I've done.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Boris
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tracker, this completes my ACTION-206.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 	   Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations#PR_transition_-_Implementation_Report
>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report/
>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/implementation-report/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow
>>>>>>>>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>>>>>>>>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ireland, Europe
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730
>>>>>>>>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kingsley Idehen	
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