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Re: What do the ontologists want

From: Stefan Decker <stefan@db.stanford.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:12:19 -0700
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To: pat hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>, "Sean B. Palmer" <sean@mysterylights.com>
Cc: www-rdf-logic@w3.org

>Hey, come out from behind the arras. You really should try reading 
>something some day.  Did it never occur to you that natural language IS a 
>global information space? It did to CS Peirce, Bertrand Russel, and WVO 
>Quine, to name but a few.  More recently, you could check out the 
>discussions on the SUO lists to see what really happens if you try to make 
>a globally coherent ontology. That is what a lot of we KR folk spend our 
>time trying to do, in fact.  Using RDF would be like trying to fill a 
>reservoir using teaspoons.
my understanding was always that this is something we (RDF, Semantic Web 
DON'T want to do (building a globally coherent ontology).
Rather we focus on small subsets and worry how to make them interoperable.
This seems also to be much more scaleable (and, actually, realistic).
And then there are arguments that RDF does make much sense (again, look at 
the semistructured data area).

All the best,


>But more seriously, I would welcome any discussion on these lists (and 
>there has been some lately) which seriously got down to what it is about 
>URIs and the Web and so on that introduces genuinely new ideas into 
>semantics. Im sure there will be some, and that there is some new work to 
>do. But so far that all seems orthogonal to the issues we have been 
>talking about.
>Pat Hayes
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