- From: Jon Awbrey <jawbrey@oakland.edu>
- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:44:01 -0500
- To: Dan Brickley <danbri@w3.org>
- CC: "Sean B. Palmer" <sean@mysterylights.com>, Bill dehOra <BdehOra@interx.com>, www-rdf-logic@w3.org, Arisbe <arisbe@stderr.org>, Conceptual Graphs <cg@cs.uah.edu>
Dan Brickley wrote: > > Yes and no ... > Yes we can identify through > descriptions as well as URIs; > but no, contrary to > > http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/Primer > > there are a bunch of propblems > (mostly involving quotation and trust) > that imho this> doesn't entirely work for. <...> ¤~~~~~~~~~¤~~~~~~~~~¤~~~~~~~~~¤~~~~~~~~~¤~~~~~~~~~¤ Dan, Thanks for the pointer to the primer, and if it is not too annoying to answer questions of a tutorial nature -- if it is don't bother about it, I will just keep reading -- and then I will go ahead and ask them, anyway, but I did have a bit of a revelation at this one point in the text: > Primer: Getting into RDF & Semantic Web using N3 > ------------------------------------------------- > > The world of the semantic web, as based on RDF, is really > simple at the base. This article shows you how to get started. > It uses a simplified teaching language -- Notation 3 or N3 -- > which is basically equivalent to RDF in its XML syntax, > but easier to scribble when getting started. > > Subject, verb, and object > > In RDF, information is simply a collection of statements, > each with a subject, verb, and object -- and nothing else. No trouble with tripples -- we Peirce Trekkies just love tripples! > In N3, you can write an RDF triple just like that, with a period: > > <#pat> <#knows> <#jo> . > > Everything, be it subject, verb, or object, is identified with > a Universal Resource Identifier. This is something like > > <http://www.w3.org/> or > <http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/test/s1.n3#includes>, > > but when everything is missed out before the "#" > it identifies <#pat> in the current document whatever it is. > > There is one exception that the object (only) > can be a string representing a value: > > <#pat> <#knows> <#jo> . > <#pat> <#age> "24" . > > The verb "knows" is in RDF called a "property" > and thought of as a noun expressing a relation > between the two. In fact you can write > > <#pat> <#child> <#al> . > > alternatively, to make it more readable, as either > > <#pat> has <#child> of <#al> . > > or > > <#al> is <#child> of <#pat> . Now, this thing that was just done here, of passing from an expression of the form "<#pat> <#child> <#al> ." to an expression of the form "<#pat> has <#child> of <#al> ." if it is permissible for us, at least, in the present context, anyway, to use our own nearly unlimited resources of quotation marks that way, well that is just what Perseans -- and I think most other logicians of the philosophical persuasion -- call "reification", in the sense of making, or at least marking, an "abstractive hypostasis" (AH), as I prefer to talk about it, or a "hypostatic abstraction" (HA), as it is more commonly called. Okay, I had better stop here before I try to go any further, and check out my e-mediate sense of the text with the group: Does that make any sense to you who speak this way? -- I did not mean to pick on you as my sole informant! -- so let me just ask it of the whole usage community: Do you intend a deliberate relation between quotes, negation, and "reification" (in any sense) by this? Many Regards, Jon Awbrey ¤~~~~~~~~~¤~~~~~~~~~¤~~~~~~~~~¤~~~~~~~~~¤~~~~~~~~~¤
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